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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Liberalism is what created progress, conservatism only creates backwardness and society stuck in time.
    The most extreme liberals desire liberation from nature.

    They want to defy nature. They want to change what cannot be changed. They are "Self Haters" because they admit dissatisfaction with Nature "as it currently is". If liberals were happy with themselves, content with life, then they would have neither need nor desire to "Change" nature.

    A conservative wants nature/life to remain "as it currently is".


    Liberalism is weakness, people without power (children).
    Conservatism is power, people with power (adults).

    Liberalism is amorality (without morals).
    Conservatism is morality (with morals).

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    Liberalism is all about the dismissal of individual responsibility. It's a cancer that discourages being strong and powerful by turning everyone into a victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodsport View Post
    Liberalism is all about the dismissal of individual responsibility. It's a cancer that discourages being strong and powerful by turning everyone into a victim.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    The most extreme liberals desire liberation from nature.

    They want to defy nature. They want to change what cannot be changed. They are "Self Haters" because they admit dissatisfaction with Nature "as it currently is". If liberals were happy with themselves, content with life, then they would have neither need nor desire to "Change" nature.

    A conservative wants nature/life to remain "as it currently is".


    Liberalism is weakness, people without power (children).
    Conservatism is power, people with power (adults).

    Liberalism is amorality (without morals).
    Conservatism is morality (with morals).
    Thank you both VERY WELL STATED - and 100% Agreed!

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    You are correct. Victimhood has been morphed from being a mere plight, and turned into a matter of credibility and entitlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Liberalism is what created progress, conservatism only creates backwardness and society stuck in time.
    Incorrect. Conservatives are nothing more than the shadow of Liberals and Liberalism. I think you confuse Traditionalists with Conservatives.
    ''Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society''- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    The most extreme liberals desire liberation from nature.

    They want to defy nature. They want to change what cannot be changed. They are "Self Haters" because they admit dissatisfaction with Nature "as it currently is". If liberals were happy with themselves, content with life, then they would have neither need nor desire to "Change" nature.

    A conservative wants nature/life to remain "as it currently is".


    Liberalism is weakness, people without power (children).
    Conservatism is power, people with power (adults).

    Liberalism is amorality (without morals).
    Conservatism is morality (with morals).
    The very belief that all men are equal is prof of liberal insanity. Mankind is not all equal.
    ''Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society''- Aristotle

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    The Premise of Liberalism:

    Children/Youth are a victim group.
    Blacks/Non-whites are a victim group.
    Women/Females are a victim group.

    In the US all young white boys rather quickly, directly or indirectly, learn about "The White Man's Burden". The presumption of the white man's burden is that it is the duty of white men to take upon our shoulders the plight of all others …because others have a lesser, weaker, or inferior nature. Thus children, blacks, and females do not have the same moral status as adult white males. White men have the greatest potential and range of self-responsibility. This premise of Liberalism immediately applies to nearly every aspect of waking life, in the US.

    On social issues, this topic is easy to think about, observe, study, and manipulate. Why are blacks and women (feminists) socialists and social groups whereas white men are "individuals"? Because the responsibility of a single black or feminist is denied. They presumably are not individuals. This becomes proved and validated when blacks and feminists rightfully claim or defend their "victim-status" as a group (society/socialism).

    So white men are capable of individuality, but others are not. This is a false premise. But you really cannot fight against it. Because victims (Slaves) fight for their "Rights" (Privilege/Protection/Security). That is what Liberal ideology is all about, defending privilege based upon a preconceived, presumed, premised victim-status claim.

    Liberal brain: "Help! I'm a victim of life and circumstances! I didn't choose to be born! Life is not fair! Why me?! I demand rights whether deserved or not, whether afforded or not!"


    If you want to prove these premises for yourself then merely observe instances when people categorize anybody else into the following categories: child/adult, black/white, female/male. For example a news story will claim that a "youth" (usually meaning black person) was charged in a crime. Why does the news write this as "youth" instead of "black man"? Because a child is more of a victim than an adult man. And the newspaper will ignore his race, in order to present a story that presumes his innocence.

    In the US our legal system is premised upon "innocent until proved guilty", unlike in other more fascistic societies and countries where people are presumed "guilty until proved innocent". So the newspapers are obligated to present stories as "innocent" and victimizing as possible. This is called "Liberal Press" or "liberal bias". It's easy to see once you learn about race-relations, feminism, and liberalism in the US and other western countries.

    Furthermore the difference between white male criminal and a black male criminal is one of causation. When a black person commits a crime then people (laden with liberal bias) will blame his race instead of him as an individual. It's his racial-group status that causes his crime. But when a white male commits a crime then he is responsible for it as an individual. Thus the liberal premise exhibits two severely different mentalities and perspectives of life.

    White men cause their own actions as individuals. Blacks, women, and children are not responsible for themselves as individuals.


    Now this won't be much of a problem for most people, until you become more moralistic, spiritual, intellectual, and desiring of autonomy (individuality). Because individuality is sometimes avoided. To become an individual relatively is difficult according to every single person and his/her capabilities. Individuality is about potential and power. Individuality is also a form of achievement and pride. Thus the pride of a group is not the pride of an individual.

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    The most powerful trend in all hedonistic/decadent/corrupt societies is moral irresponsibility, "Amorality".

    As mentioned before, Liberalism is direct indication of excessive Privilege. Privilege is security. Privilege is the (infantile, immature) child-state of humanity. Privilege is willful ignorance. Ignorance is bliss. Thus ignorance is valued very high for liberals. Liberalism is not a 'knowledgeable' ideology, nor wise. Liberals are against wisdom, knowledge, and authentic education. Instead liberals redefine the world, revise history, and promote indoctrination instead of education. The gulf between indoctrination and education is severe. Education is defined by the self-aware, conscious willpower of learners to explore existence and the universe. Education begins without premises, without bias, objectively.

    Liberalism (Indoctrination, Enslavement) begins with premises, and all "learning" merely represents the means to justify those hidden premises. Why do liberals hide their premises? Because nobody would buy into them if they were discovered. What is the premise of liberalism? The premise is: you can change the world, because nature can change. The antithesis is: you cannot change the world, because nature cannot change. So which do you believe? Can nature change or not? Do sharks eat apples? Is hot air heavier than cold air? Does gravity change directions?

    The answer is no, nature does not change. Because by definition humans define nature as unchanging, permanence.

    Nature is absolute resistance against change. Nature does not change.


    Proof: Gravity does not change directions. It is always constant. It is never random.

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    Infantil-ism:

    All humans begin as infants cocooned within a secure, privileged, protected, loved, nurtured, caring environment.

    This environment begins in a woman's womb. And no matter how bad and poor the neglect of any infant, survival indicates such privileges and protections. It is too easily observed to claim that all humans begin life in a state of 'love' and thus proceed outward, travelling away from the infantile-state. If the beginning of human life, and all life, is "love", then toward what other end does age traverse except "hate"? Hatred reflects hardship, suffering, and death. Yet this is an equation of life, age, and time.

    There is no other point in life which any person, individual, organism, creature, animal, living thing is "safer", more protected, more cared for, and most loved.


    Liberalism represents a crippled, stunted growth of humanity. Instead of reveling in hardship, understanding its risk and reward, liberals fight to retain and stay inside the infantile (child) state. Liberalism withholds Solipsism. Solipsism is the ideology that justifies and actively admits to wanting to remain a child forever. Solipsism is a natural, autistic compulsion to "withdraw into the self", reflecting the function of ignorance.

    Fear triggers ignorance. And fear only exists as a response to the unknown. The unknown is always feared. Infants and children recoil from the "outside" world, retreating to the safety of their mother's arms or womb. And it is this natural compulsion that directly links to many other aspects of life, including maturity.

    Because no matter how old, mature, experienced, knowledgeable a person may become, no matter how independent, individualistic, or self-reliant… the compulsion and reflex always exists in one form or another. Even the very nature of memories and "the past" represent such need "to retreat into the womb". There are specific reasons and causes that infants and young children do not remember their earliest years of life.


    I will attribute, link, and parallel Liberalism to Solipsism and this compulsion to withdraw/retreat from life and existence.

    Liberals falsely believe that privilege and protection "Human Rights" exist without costs. As-if their mothers will always be there, care for them, love them. Thus liberals also preach "love for all". Because all of these ideas connect to the same fundamental idea.

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    Indication of Weakness:

    To want to change the world, nature, or anything, immediately demonstrates human weakness.

    Because if the world were perfect "as-is" then you wouldn't want to change anything at all. Instead you would just live life in a state of contentedness and balance. The idea of Nirvana/Peace/Heaven is attained through achieving such balance in life, of life. The idea of (Christian) Hell represents imbalance and chaos. Thus Liberalism is more comparable to Hell than to Heaven. To change something small, is a small desire. But to change the world, existence, the universe, nature, is the greatest desire and representation of liberalism.

    Idealism is the phenomenon of this desire and human flaw.

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