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    Quote Originally Posted by VictriX View Post
    You say you are Italian. So I doubt YOUR grandparents came though this.
    You can call "holodomor" whatever but it doesn't mean that you are right. Even almost none of the Western countries acknowledges "holodomor" as an artificial fact.
    I can also claim that the Great Plague was caused by Nigeria's secret weapons, but it will hardly mean this is true.
    Let's do this: since I am tired of aswering to you Russians, give me directly a Russian passport. You persuaded me by exhaustion, now I want to move there and live in your wonderful paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igo112 View Post
    Well to anyone who favours statistics more so than editorials, either way, that throne is had by someone else. Of course I am referring to 20+ million Soviets (including largely Russians) dead by Western aggression, not to mention however many million Chinese died in 1940's. It is also too seldomly acknowledged, what impact world at war may have had on subsequent Sino-Soviet productity, on farms and elsewhere. When they were allied West would praise Russian economic miracle, but after they finished using them as cannon fodder, of course their story changed.
    The difference between me and you is that I am not defending Hitler, while you are refusing to recognize Stalin's genocide, because I am a western and I am open-minded, while you are Russian and have a dictatorial mindset.


    Russian: "It's like this"
    Western: "Not necessarly, there is also this other theory..."
    "Niet"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detfri View Post
    Let's do this: since I am tired of aswering to you Russians, give me directly a Russian passport. You persuaded me by exhaustion, now I want to move there and live in your wonderful paradise.
    I am afraid you are life he would not be that great, because you would not pass here as white
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    Well here in the East we are usualy using other words to describe person that talks too much nonsense and bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    i doubt you are one of haplogroup J original romans/latins, you are for sure haplogroup R1B which is our cousin (slavs R1A) because since the invasion of vandals romans got a lot of our blood admixture this is why the modern italy has at least 55% haplogroup R
    There are even R1b clades in Italy introduced there by phoenicians from levant, others from anatolia, others even appear emerged there. We cannot claim R1b was introduced only by germanics or celtics in Italy. Is almost obvious the introducers of Italiotic (indo european) languages there were mainly R1b.

    only an off topic dissertation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    I am afraid you are life he would not be that great, because you would not pass here as white
    So what? here in Italy you Russians would be considered like gypsies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    you know there is no official war in ukraine? ukraine never declared an emergency state at all..

    the real reason behind the whole conflict is the americans and western europe want to get ukraine on their side to profit from the gas and other resources plus to conquer sevastopol the marine harbour and attack russia!

    russia is not involved yet in the conflict it is a civil war between neo-banderas and russian minority civilians.
    america and the eu donate guns to the banderas and ukraininan army to eradicate the russian minority so they can get the gas resources and pipelines in ukraine, americans did the same thing in lybia, iraq, ex-yugoslavia, divide and conquer is their strategy the only reason are resources! they pay private soldiers lot of money to provoke civil wars and profit from destabilising other countries.

    russia is not involved yet in the conflict if they would be they would reach kyev in few days because 70% of the ukraininan army equipment is destroyed already by the civil war the us agents provoked on maidan to divide and conquer the nation and steal their resources!
    of course the western media in their hands always sheds a negative light on russia while the western nations especially germany and usa are the innocent even if they conquer the whole world step by step.. how much countries has russia conquered in the last 10years compared to usa?

    sadly again innocent civilists pay the price for the western globalistic war politics and dumb nationalist of course go into war because they believe russia is attacking them while the truth is the novorussians only defend their families from the ukrainian usa expansion to the east!!!

    do not forget russia now changed the oil market from dollar to rubel which is also the main reason the usa wants to attack russia by the help of ukraine!
    Also to culturally enrich natives and remove natives/patriots from premises in a pointless war. I can't believe some dumb westerners even volunteer for this shit.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    Really, I'm also capable to go to other side of the front.

    I'm still an ignoramus about how "Moscow" see the russian minorities (or not) into the EX-USSR countries, out of Russia borders.

    1-They are fully russians, with direct link with Russia, their country, their policy, their nation.

    2-They are just a people that shares the ethnical, historical, cultural ties, but out of Mocow political of scope.

    3-Just meat to be sacrificed in the name of some political or financial interest.

    The world need much consider the situation of russian people out Russia territories. Everibody is crying about GAS, OIL, PORKY, TERRITORIES and are forgetting so sensible human component in this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    the us is the imperial child of europe so in fact the us is just a subcompany of european union their interests go hand in hand..

    the usa is the eu and other way around(same royalty lineage) , it is sad you missed the fact usa is just the extension roman imperialism.. who founded usa? right, the europeans!

    http://constiintaadn.files.wordpress.../fasces_us.jpg
    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...qd4ead8c20.jpg
    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...mb4ec9832b.jpg

    usa and eu are the same power operating on two different continets only in the media they appear as different..

    the sadest thing is the slavic ukrainians fight their own brothers(ukraine was once part of the RUS! kyevan RUS so they are russians/slavs too by blood) under the interests of roman-germanic globalists..
    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    but you forget they were never part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation as were the germans(normans/anglosaxons) and italians(romans) who founded britain and their royalty and the vatican and then expanded to america under the same flag!

    so europe always was divided between latin/germanic west and slavic east this is why westerners hate russia and they always had conflict with russia because russia does not play their globalist game and slavs(especially russians) go their own way instead of supporting the western globalist interests!

    the western holy roman germanic teutonic knights already killed millions of slavs during their invasion and inquisistions of east europe(spreading of catholicism) hundreds of years ago we all know this !

    all slavs share the same haplogroup r1a so only politics was always able to divide and conquer us against each other! mostly in the interests of money and resources..
    You have an interesting view of the world. In fact, many Russians have traditionally considered Russia to be the legitimate continuation of the Roman Empire (or a "Third Rome"). A legal rationale is proposed for this.

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