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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    but you forget they were never part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation as were the germans(normans/anglosaxons) and italians(romans) who founded britain and their royalty and the vatican and then expanded to america under the same flag!

    so europe always was divided between latin/germanic west and slavic east this is why westerners hate russia and they always had conflict with russia because russia does not play their globalist game and slavs(especially russians) go their own way instead of supporting the western globalist interests!

    the western holy roman germanic teutonic knights already killed millions of slavs during their invasion and inquisistions of east europe(spreading of catholicism) hundreds of years ago we all know this !

    all slavs share the same haplogroup r1a so only politics was always able to divide and conquer us against each other! mostly in the interests of money and resources..
    None in the west wants the destruction of the slavs, if a war would happen it would be rich against poors, and if you hate this monster called EU and capitalist i am of yours, although i am western myself.

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    The next war will probably be a huge civil war between whites "patriot" in a side and USA/EU/Immigrants and Liberals in the others

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    nato = globalism = nato pretends to be the peacemaker force but in fact nato was established by the americans so they can build military bases all around the world for globalisation and encircle russia!!! this is the fact most poeple influenced by mainstream media dont get..

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    nato(america) is making strategic military bases all around the world and encircling russia!!!

    they need to strategically conquer all countries in the world to succeed in their plan for world domination and totalitarian control over world resources and human population...

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    does the nato symbol remind you of something? yes the 45 degree swastika of old german reich.. as i said america and britain was founded by anglosaxon holy roman germanic imperialists! this is why america has the same symbols as fascist romans used (eagle, fasces etc.)
    this is why america donates weapons and armour to the ukrainian fascist banderas youth called azov battalion..

    americans also want resources and they want to conquer Donbass, Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporzhiye because there are lot of natural resources, plus gain control of the oil pipelines all around russia, plus to build a strategic military base in ukraine which would heavily endanger russia.. this is why they donate the ukrainian banderas azov with weapons and armour to erase the novorussian minority and build their industry in their region...
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    the americans hate russia also because of its strong orthodox christian values because putin banned homosexuality and propagates anti-western christian values instead of american decadent sodomized porn beer drugs rock and roll "culture".. a drunk nation without strong faith and values is easiest to manipulate!!!
    old tactics of "bread and circus" for the slaves and divide and conquer the family by propagation of porn and pormisquity...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXDmXcyi-8I

    the germanic nazis and fascist romans were into occultism and paganism the same as the american elites are today so they desperately hate christian russia and its christian values!!!
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    I think both sides are to blame here USA and Russia .But if i was an ukrainian i would not be with Russia since Russia killed 6 million of Ukrainians .Russia has seen Ukraine more like a colony than a nation .

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    russia should be blamed for the western expansion to east europe? where is your logic?!

    you also fail to understand russians and ukrainians are the same nation by blood and dna they once were kyevan RUS! do you even know the history of the RUS?!

    it is the same as if you would say the kosovans should go into war against albania.. no logic here!

    and by the way stalin was not a russian he was from georgia and communism was not a russian invention! so who killed those ukrainians, the russians or those nonrussian people who took over russia after they murdered the tsar family! read some history about pre communist russia mate.. get some history book my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    russia should be blamed for the western expansion to east europe? where is your logic?!

    you also fail to understand russians and ukrainians are the same nation by blood and dna they once were kyevan RUS! do you even know the history of the RUS?!

    it is the same as if you would say the kosovans should go into war against albania.. no logic here!

    and by the way stalin was not a russian he was from georgia and communism was not a russian invention! so who killed those ukrainians, the russians or those nonrussian people who took over russia after they murdered the tsar family! read some history about pre communist russia mate.. get some history book my friend.
    Why did russia them starve six million ukrainians.I know history pretty well and more than half of ukraine had polish influence.Stalin starved six million ukrainians and replaced with russian immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    russia should be blamed for the western expansion to east europe? where is your logic?!

    you also fail to understand russians and ukrainians are the same nation by blood and dna they once were kyevan RUS! do you even know the history of the RUS?!

    it is the same as if you would say the kosovans should go into war against albania.. no logic here!

    western ukraine hates russia so do not compare it to russia.Most eastern states want to join nato so they can feel secure.Usa rebuild europe instead Russia treated his eastern brothers like colonies and massacred them.

    and by the way stalin was not a russian he was from georgia and communism was not a russian invention! so who killed those ukrainians, the russians or those nonrussian people who took over russia after they murdered the tsar family! read some history about pre communist russia mate.. get some history book my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korabi View Post
    Why did russia them starve six million ukrainians.I know history pretty well and more than half of ukraine had polish influence.Stalin starved six million ukrainians and replaced with russian immigrants.
    stalin was not russian you did not even read what is posted before!

    stalin was georgian!

    ukraine was once part of kyevan RUS so the ukrainians are the same blood as russians(even ukrainian language is just a dialect fo russian), this was before they split into two nations! after the khazarian invaders killed the tsar family in russia they took control over russia and established communism there! so not russians starved ukraine but marxist communist khazarians such as marx, trotsky and stalin!

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