Question To All British Members: Do you consider "WASP" Americans to be British?

[Gooding]

Those are called liberals. The same type here in America/New England who claim Puerto Ricans are as American as me. If not more 'American' than me. Its called 'Bullshit'. I like how people can show up and claim they are British or American yet not one of their ancestors fought in any wars to create these countries or ever contributed to them historically. So therefore they are not one of us. American or British English came from Anglo-Saxon.

A Nigerian is a Nigerian. An Indian is an Indian. How can either of them be British if these peoples won independence from the Empire? That right there is a good argument against these fakes.

Race/Ethnic group at the end of the day means everything. Not where you are born or what language you speak. Just because it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck doesn't make it a duck.

Or, just because you hang out in a garage, it doesn't make you a car.

[LightHouse89]

Yes I do consider WASPs of the American upper and middle class people as being related to British people, along with the WASP descent middle and upper class Canadians, Aussies and New Zealanders too in the other Anglosphere nations.

We are one people. Don't listen to these cultural Marxists.

[Longbowman]

Or, just because you hang out in a garage, it doesn't make you a car.

A better analogy would be 'it doesn't make you a mechanic' but you'd actually probably get some know-how. Being British is a cultural thing.

[Widukind91]

This poll really should have been made public......

[Stanley]

But anyway, the real question: is this connection that "WASP" Americans attempt to forge between themselves and Britain simply a one-way thing, or are these feelings of fraternity reciprocated in Britain?

WASPs aren't identifying as Anglo-Saxon in order to create kinship between themselves and Brits. You're operating under a false premise here. Rather, it's simply how they describe and understand themselves.

To more properly answer your question though, there is no real connection between Anglo-Saxon descendants in America and those in Britain—and that is not only due to the fact that the former are mixed. It's more due to the two having gone along different trajectories for several centuries. Both are part of the Anglosphere so there's affinity in that regard, but no, there's no Anglo-Saxon ethnic continuity between the two at all.

Is there even a single pure-bred colonial stock WASP left in the US?

There are a ton of Americans who trace all lines of their ancestry back to colonial times. Is a single one of them still 100% English? I can't say for sure that one isn't, but it'd be pretty remarkable if one was, considering how many ancestors that would represent.

Go fuck yourself before making a thread about me or my in you retarded ass clown.

Ahh, what a way our Mr. Crow has with words.

[♥ Lily ♥]

"WASP descent middle and upper class..." That seems to be really condescending, for one, and number two- are you really British? You made a pretty amateur grammatical mistake in that sentence.

I was born and raised in England and my maternal and paternal relatives all stem from the West Country... I've traced all my ancestors back 170 years so far, and apart from 1 Irish great-great grandmother from Co. Mayo in Eire, the rest of my relatives all stem from the West Country of England.

I can show you the results of my English language quizzes I've done on this forum too.

It's a well-known fact that the WASPs are amongst the middle and upper class people in the Anglosphere nations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_A...xon_Protestant

[LightHouse89]

Or, just because you hang out in a garage, it doesn't make you a car.

Exactly. I mean I love this left wing logic. Because I am born in America it makes me an American wow I speak American English, chew bubble gum, shop at wal mart so this makes me a legit American.

This cultural Marxist thinking is a plague in the English speaking world.

These people who come here who think they are one of us make me laugh hysterically. I really do not care what some chav in some ghetto in London considers 'British' nor do I care what some Puerto rican Marxist professor thinks in my town regarding what is a real American.

The opinion of some low born half wit does not interest me because it isn't reality. They have no right to dictate who is what as they are entirely not of the founding stock or related. Our people are one because we share the same DNA and culture [similar not exactly the same as in Britain there are differences between the Welsh and Scots for example]. But to say a Nigerian born in London is more Anglo-Saxon than me or you is insane.

This is why I dislike democracy because it gives these third world savage animals political power in our lands. They are not our equals nor in any shape way or form related to us. I listen to this cultural Marxist nonsense all the time in 'multicultural New England'. It is pure insanity and retarded to listen to.

[Widukind91]

WASPs aren't identifying as Anglo-Saxon in order to create kinship between themselves and Brits. You're operating under a false premise here. Rather, it's simply how they describe and understand themselves.

To more properly answer your question though, there is no real connection between Anglo-Saxon descendants in America and those in Britain—and that is not only due to the fact that the former are mixed. It's more due to the two having gone along different trajectories for several centuries. Both are part of the Anglosphere so there's affinity in that regard, but no, there's no Anglo-Saxon ethnic continuity between the two at all.



There are a ton of Americans who trace all lines of their ancestry back to colonial times. Is a single one of them still 100% English? I can't say for sure that one isn't, but it'd be pretty remarkable if one was, considering how many ancestors that would represent.



Ahh, what a way our Mr. Crow has with words.

Ah, and here we have the answer to my question. Thank you for the response, Stanley.

[Leto]

Those are called liberals. The same type here in America/New England who claim Puerto Ricans are as American as me. If not more 'American' than me. Its called 'Bullshit'. I like how people can show up and claim they are British or American yet not one of their ancestors fought in any wars to create these countries or ever contributed to them historically. So therefore they are not one of us. American or British English came from Anglo-Saxon.

A Nigerian is a Nigerian. An Indian is an Indian. How can either of them be British if these peoples won independence from the Empire? That right there is a good argument against these fakes.

Race/Ethnic group at the end of the day means everything. Not where you are born or what language you speak. Just because it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck doesn't make it a duck.

Well, that wasn't my personal opinion, I just gave you the picture of what most of them would say. I'm not British, so I don't wanna be smart-ass here. If you want to know my opinion, I can't say UK-born Nigerians or Indians are 100% British to me. British people were always white until recently. So even Poles or Italians are not British, even if they hold UK citizenship. However, some members of those "minorities'' may have been indeed assimilated to a great degree, so they are more British than me, because I would be a 100% foreigner in the UK, even though my skin and hair are lighter than those of Nigerians and Indians. I wouldn't like to equate being British with being American. You say only people like you are trully American, that is your right, I respect it. However, there is no American ethnicity, but there have always been English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish ethnicities. Those people are native to the British Isles.

[Vasconcelos]

Doing an analogy towards my country, I do not consider Brazilians of full Portuguese descent to be culturally Portuguese. My best friend's mother is a second generation emigrant from Brazil, she's been in Portugal for 30 years and the differences are still present. Her nephews, who always lived in Brazil, are even more culturally distinct, eventhough they all look just like us (because that's what genetically they are).

Cultures do not stay static, the moment the same people goes in two different directions following an independence the differences start to appear, especially if they are in different continents and thus exposed to different influences, challenges and historical events.



Oh, and obviously I did not vote.