Who is more Mongoloid Northern Europeans?

[Östsvensk]

Russians are not Northern Europeans, as have been stated already.

If not counting Finns, then populations with minorities having Mongoloid admixture (such as Saami and Finno-Ugric), taking into account that they never had any racial segregation laws against them and banned their languages at times. Those would be the Swedes and the Norwegians, in other words.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Russians are not Northern Europeans, as have been stated already.

Aren't they at least more northern than Germans or the English?

According to Wikipedia, the latitude of the center of population of Russia is about 56.6, or further north than Denmark (about 55.7 according to Eurostat).

Also Russians have lower EEF admixture than even North Germanics.

The Nenets? Along with the Sami they are the northernmost indigenous people in Europe.

Don't forget your dear Komi. According to Wikipedia, Komi also live on Kolguyev Island (Bugrino), which is one of the northernmost parts of the Nenets AO.

In the 2002 census, 2,177 Komi were also listed as living in Murmansk Oblast (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuolan_niemimaan_komit). Here's an old Estonian video from a Komi village (Краснощелье) in Kola: https://reporter.postimees.ee/350387...kulalislahkust.

The northernmost part of continental European Russia is actually on Rybachy Peninsula in Murmansk Oblast and not in Nenets Autonomous Okrug.

One of the northernmost settlements in Rybachy Peninsula (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsypnavolok) used to be inhabited by Norwegians, but they got ethnically cleansed by Russians (lol):

During the 1860s, the Murmansk coast of the Kola Peninsula was actively being settled.[4] In 1867, a fisherman village was established by Kola Norwegians by the cape. In 1929, 114 Norwegians were registered in the area, and therefore a Norwegian national selsoviet was established in 1930. In 1940, the Norwegians were transferred during the ethnic cleansing campaigns near the border, and the selsoviet was abolished. After World War II, the Norwegians were allowed to return to Murmansk Oblast, but they were to be settled in Port-Vladimir.

I wonder if that's the only time in history that Norwegians were subject to ethnic cleansing.

[Östsvensk]

Aren't they at least more northern than Germans or the English?

According to Wikipedia, the latitude of the center of population of Russia is about 56.6, or further north than Denmark (about 55.7 according to Eurostat).

Also Russians have lower EEF admixture than even North Germanics.

Russia is Eastern Europe and Asia, and Russians are Eastern Europeans.

Northern Europe is made up by the Nordic countries + Great Britain + the Baltic States.

Kola Norwegians were actually Mongoloid.



You are laughing at your own kind lel.

I'm not sure. From that picture, they look like Norwegians, albeit I guess that the one second to the right could be found in the "mixed Finnish types" section in old school Swedish typology books.

[Kyp]

Voted Swedish because I didn't expect Russians to be on this poll

[Östsvensk]

He thinks that Finno-Ugric Russians and Samis are more Nordic/Northern than Scandinavians and British, are there any pan-Mongolism activists in Finland lel? This dude is a peculiar case.

I do not think so, but there seem to exist Finns who do not regard themselves as European or white, because their DNA is touchable on many levels.

GENETIC RESEARCHERS SURPRISED: EUROPE IS NOW DIVIDED INTO FINNS AND NON-FINNS
https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/gee...f-e476df4bd53a

18.8.2016

"Finns and non-Finns".

The genetic heritage of Finns has always been known as special, but only now is it known that the Finnish population is completely unique in Europe. Finns differ so much from Europeans when it comes to genetic heritance, that they have to be classified as their own human population.

– "the term European hereafter refers to non-Finnish European individuals." the article says.

[...]

– It's correct to say that Finns are not Europeans, they don't resemble Europeans genetically. But Finns are not Asians either, they don't resemble them either. Finns don't resemble any other population genetically.


- Finland is not an isolate as whole, only Eastern Finland. (Western Finland is populated by Swedish-speaking people who refuse to call themself Finns, they call themself "Finlanders", and are probably remains of the Swedish occupation.)

[Laag]

Northern Europeans are those who live in Norhern countries. According to United Nations geoscheme Northern countries are:
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
Iceland
Ireland
Latvia
Lithuania
Norway
Sweden
United Kingdom



The following regions of Russia (European part) are located on the same parallel with Denmark or southern Sweden: Pskov, Tver, Yaroslavl, Ivanovo, Nizhny Novgorod, Mari El, Udmurtia, Perm Krai.
Theoretically, those regions fall into Northern Europe. So, Mari, Udmurts, Karelians, Komi, Komi-Permyaks can also be considered as Northern Europeans.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Russia is Eastern Europe and Asia, and Russians are Eastern Europeans.

Northern Europe is made up by the Nordic countries + Great Britain + the Baltic States.

Then are Kola Saami or East Karelians not Northern Europeans either?

If Komi Republic would be an independent country, its capital (Syktyvkar) would be the second northernmost capital of Europe after Reykjavik. The southernmost part of the Komi Republic is at approximately the same latitude as Stockholm. Like Finland, the Komi Republic is almost entirely part of the boreal zone, but the population of Sweden is mostly concentrated in the temperate hemiboreal zone.

If Brits are Northern Europeans, then so are Russians. Maybe 10% of the area of European Russia is further south than the southernmost part of England, and it includes many republics with an indigenous majority: Kalmykia, Dagestan, Chechenya, Ingushetia, North Ossetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, and Karachay-Cherkessia.

Moscow is at about the same latitude as Copenhagen, and the center of population of Russia is further north than Moscow.

Even Izhevsk (the capital of Udmurtia), Yoshkar-Ola (the capital of Mari Land), Cheboksary (the capital of Chuvashia), and Kazan (the capital of Tatarstan) are all further north than Copenhagen.

I think even Chuvashes are genetically more northern than North Germanics, because they have much lower EEF / West Asian admixture.

If Northern Europe is defined as the regions of Europe further north than the southernmost point of Denmark (latitude 54.56), then the 20 cities of Northern Europe with the largest population are the following:

(population within city limits listed by Wikipedia (millions);latitude returned by Google Maps;city)
12.4;55.6;Moscow
5.28;59.9;Saint Petersburg
1.26;56.3;Nizhny Novgorod
1.23;55.8;Kazan (Tatarstan)
1.12;54.8;Ufa (Bashkortostan)
1.05;58.0;Perm
0.97;59.3;Stockholm
0.67;59.9;Oslo
0.65;60.1;Helsinki
0.63;56.8;Izhevsk (Udmurtia)
0.63;57.0;Riga
0.61;57.7;Yaroslavl
0.60;55.7;Copenhagen
0.60;55.9;Glasgow
0.58;57.7;Gothenburg
0.54;54.7;Ryazan
0.54;54.7;Vilnius
0.53;55.7;Naberezhnye Chelny (Tatarstan)
0.50;58.6;Kirov
0.49;56.2;Cheboksary (Chuvashia)

Using the same definition of Northern Europe, you can see that most of Northern Europe is part of the Uralic domain, even though most of its area was lost to Russians and the Norse (Iceland and arctic islands are missing from the map):


https://indo-european.eu/maps/medieval/

[Östsvensk]

Then are Kola Saami or East Karelians not Northern Europeans either?

If Komi Republic would be an independent country, its capital (Syktyvkar) would be the second northernmost capital of Europe after Reykjavik. The southernmost part of the Komi Republic is at approximately the same latitude as Stockholm. Like Finland, the Komi Republic is almost entirely part of the boreal zone, but the population of Sweden is mostly concentrated in the temperate hemiboreal zone.

If Brits are Northern Europeans, then so are Russians. Maybe 10% of the area of European Russia is further south than the southernmost part of England, and it includes many republics with an indigenous majority: Kalmykia, Dagestan, Chechenya, Ingushetia, North Ossetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, and Karachay-Cherkessia.

Moscow is at about the same latitude as Copenhagen, and the center of population of Russia is further north than Moscow.

Even Izhevsk (the capital of Udmurtia), Yoshkar-Ola (the capital of Mari Land), Cheboksary (the capital of Chuvashia), and Kazan (the capital of Tatarstan) are all further north than Copenhagen.

I think even Chuvashes are genetically more northern than North Germanics, because they have much lower EEF / West Asian admixture.

If Northern Europe is defined as the regions of Europe further north than the southernmost point of Denmark (latitude 54.56), then the 20 largest cities of Northern Europe are the following:

(population within city limits listed by Wikipedia (millions);latitude returned by Google Maps;city)
12.4;55.6;Moscow
5.28;59.9;Saint Petersburg
1.26;56.3;Nizhny Novgorod
1.23;55.8;Kazan (Tatarstan)
1.12;54.8;Ufa (Bashkortostan)
1.05;58.0;Perm
0.97;59.3;Stockholm
0.67;59.9;Oslo
0.65;60.1;Helsinki
0.63;56.8;Izhevsk (Udmurtia)
0.61;57.7;Yaroslavl
0.60;55.7;Copenhagen
0.60;55.9;Glasgow
0.58;57.7;Gothenburg
0.54;54.7;Ryazan
0.53;55.7;Naberezhnye Chelny (Tatarstan)
0.50;58.6;Kirov
0.49;56.2;Cheboksary (Chuvashia)
0.48;55.9;Edinburgh
0.48;54.7;Kaliningrad

Using the same definition of Northern Europe, you can see that most of Northern Europe is part of the Uralic domain, even though most of its area was lost to Russians and the Norse:


https://indo-european.eu/maps/medieval/

If they live in Northern European countries and are native there, then they can be called Northern Europeans by at least some measure. East Karelians are a tricky case, depending on if they belong to Finland or Russia.

I think the question is about those who are included in the poll, though, and no one else.

[Laag]

He thinks that Finno-Ugric Russians and Samis are more Nordic/Northern than Scandinavians and British, are there any pan-Mongolism activists in Finland lel? This dude is a peculiar case.

In fact if such a state existed it would be the most anti-wog state on earth. For Finns, Karelians, Estonias, Komi etc all other Europeans are literally kebab-niggers.

[Kivan]

In fact if such a state existed it would be the most anti-wog state on earth. For Finns, Karelians, Estonias, Komi etc all other Europeans are literally kebab-niggers.

Indeed

Sand nigger non-Europeans:





True Europeans: