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    1. Religion promotes tribalism.Infidel, heathen, heretic. Religion divides insiders from outsiders. Rather than assuming good intentions, adherents often are taught to treat outsiders with suspicion. “Be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers,” says the Christian Bible. “They wish that you disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them,” says the Koran (Sura 4:91).

    At best, teachings like these discourage or even forbid the kinds of friendship and intermarriage that help clans and tribes become part of a larger whole. At worst, outsiders are seen as enemies of God and goodness, potential agents of Satan, lacking in morality and not to be trusted. Believers might huddle together, anticipating martyrdom. When simmering tensions erupt, societies fracture along sectarian fault lines.

    2. Religion anchors believers to the Iron Age. Concubines, magical incantations, chosen people, stonings....The Iron Age was a time of rampant superstition, ignorance, inequality, racism, misogyny, and violence. Slavery had God’s sanction. Women and children were literally possessions of men. Warlords practiced scorched-earth warfare. Desperate people sacrificed living animals, agricultural products and enemy soldiers as burnt offerings intended to appease dangerous gods.

    Sacred texts including the Bible, Torah and Koran all preserve and protect fragments of Iron Age culture, putting a god’s name and endorsement on some of the very worst human impulses. Any believer looking to excuse his own temper, sense of superiority, warmongering, bigotry, or planetary destruction can find validation in writings that claim to be authored by God.

    Today, humanity’s moral consciousness is evolving, grounded in an ever deeper and broader understanding of the Golden Rule. But many conservative believers can’t move forward. They are anchored to the Iron Age. This pits them against change in a never-ending battle that consumes public energy and slows creative problem solving.

    3. Religion makes a virtue out of faith.Trust and obey for there’s no other way to be happy in Jesus.So sing children in Sunday schools across America. The Lord works in mysterious ways,pastors tell believers who have been shaken by horrors like brain cancer or a tsunami. Faith is a virtue.

    As science eats away at territory once held by religion, traditional religious beliefs require greater and greater mental defenses against threatening information. To stay strong, religion trains believers to practice self-deception, shut out contradictory evidence, and trust authorities rather than their own capacity to think. This approach seeps into other parts of life. Government, in particular, becomes a fight between competing ideologies rather than a quest to figure out practical, evidence-based solutions that promote wellbeing.

    [4.Religion diverts generous impulses and good intentions.Feeling sad about Haiti? Give to our mega-church. Crass financial appeals during times of crisis thankfully are not the norm, but religion does routinely redirect generosity in order to perpetuate religion itself. Generous people are encouraged to give till it hurts to promote the church itself rather than the general welfare. Each year, thousands of missionaries throw themselves into the hard work of saving souls rather than saving lives or saving our planetary life support system. Their work, tax free, gobbles up financial and human capital.

    Besides exploiting positive moral energy like kindness or generosity, religion often redirects moral disgust and indignation, attaching these emotions to arbitrary religious rules rather than questions of real harm. Orthodox Jews spend money on wigs for women and double dishwashers. Evangelical parents, forced to choose between righteousness and love, kick queer teens out onto the street. Catholic bishops impose righteous rules on operating rooms.

    5. Religion teaches helplessness. Que sera, sera—what will be will be. Let go and let God.We’ve all heard these phrases, but sometimes we don’t recognize the deep relationship between religiosity and resignation. In the most conservative sects of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, women are seen as more virtuous if they let God manage their family planning. Droughts, poverty and cancer get attributed to the will of God rather than bad decisions or bad systems; believers wait for God to solve problems they could solve themselves.

    This attitude harms society at large as well as individuals. When today’s largest religions came into existence, ordinary people had little power to change social structures either through technological innovation or advocacy. Living well and doing good were largely personal matters. When this mentality persists, religion inspires personal piety without social responsibility. Structural problems can be ignored as long as the believer is kind to friends and family and generous to the tribal community of believers.

    6. Religions seek power.Think corporate personhood. Religions are man-made institutions, just like for-profit corporations are. And like any corporation, to survive and grow a religion must find a way to build power and wealth and compete for market share. Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity—any large enduring religious institution is as expert at this as Coca-Cola or Chevron. And just like for-profit behemoths, they are willing to wield their power and wealth in the service of self-perpetuation, even it harms society at large.

    In fact, unbeknown to religious practitioners, harming society may actually be part of religion’s survival strategy. In the words of sociologist Phil Zuckerman and researcher Gregory Paul, “Not a single advanced democracy that enjoys benign, progressive socio-economic conditions retains a high level of popular religiosity.” When people feel prosperous and secure, the hold of religion weakens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    religion doesn't really do those things... people do those things, religion MAY play a part in it, but its usually down to the people, even without religion we will STILL have evil people out there...
    Why dont you get drunk and go drive a car.You will see if it was alcohol fault that your senses do not work properly.

    Religion alters our perception of the world cause its a drug for the mind.Drugs do not need to be injected to work.

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    I think that you are limiting your statements only to the disadvantages of the Abrahamic religions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    not true.. its the people that need help, and you atheists need to realise that... enver hoxha was an atheist and a maniac.
    Enver hoxha believed himself to be godly and not to make no mistakes.

    Communism in albania was a religion in itself.Only people who refuse any responsibility were able to commit such crimes.

    Religion takes many forms ,In north korea for example they believe kim jong un has no asshole and he does not poop.He works so hard that his poop burns inside his intestine.

    So was stalin lenin ect.

    Atheists are amongs the most peasful people in the world ,99 percent of the scientists in the world are atheists.

    They seek only the truth and are not afraid to admit they are wrong.

    If most of the worlds smartest people do not believe in god there must be a reason don't you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    not true.. its the people that need help, and you atheists need to realise that... enver hoxha was an atheist and a maniac.
    YOu said it was not true why dont you get drunk and try to drive see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    you will still have bad people even without religion.
    Yes but they will be irrelevant.

    Let me tell you a real story.

    50 years ago the most deaths caused in an operation table in hospitals were caused by human error.

    Scientists did not try to change humans but developed the technology that did not create the possibility for such errors to not occur in the first place.

    Thanks to automation the deaths were down 80 percent.Humans did not change but technology did.

    See where i am going.

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    Same shit different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    true but face it even without religion people are going to be evil.
    That is untrue and we see it with our eyes Finland,Sweden ,Norway are the most atheist nations in the world and enjoy a very high morality were they have low crimes and high standart of living.

    The notion that religion brings morality is simply stupid people have a brain and can distinguish what is right and wrong.

    A stupid book can not tell me what is morality because its immoral in the first place.

    Do you need a book to tell you not to steal,kill, to understand its wrong no.Religion has given people reason to explain their actions.

    Japan is the most atheist country in the world and has the lowes crime rate in the world.
    Religion is evil .

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    world percentage by country of atheists.

    If you look closely,france germany,iceland,japan,canada ar mostly atheists.and they seem to be doing fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    religion is not evil people are. face it atheist. albania was once atheist they didn't do well same as russia, millions and millions of people died in russia, and south korea.
    Albania was not atheists communism was religion and Stalin and enver hoxha were gods.

    I am giving you facts and you keep saying i the same thing over and over without reason.

    I can not free your mind if you want to believe in fairy tales.If you want to live based on a drug its your choice.

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