Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 15 of 15

Thread: Do you believe in humanity?

  1. #11
    Uncircumcised Member Anthropos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Online
    08-15-2018 @ 08:11 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Germanic
    Ethnicity
    Geat
    Ancestry
    Germanics all the way
    Country
    Sweden
    Region
    West Sweden
    Politics
    Nationalist / Ethnopluralist
    Relationship Status
    Alive and kicking
    Gender
    Posts
    2,310
    Thumbs Up/Down
    Received: 627/16
    Given: 727/42

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Holt View Post
    I'd garner more responses this way. Maybe I am left-wing troll though. ;D

    But the concept of humanity, as people understand it today, more or less amounts to what I wrote. If you have a different definition or one that conflicts with what I wrote, go ahead and share it. To shorten it up a bit, I think it would mean believing that we have a specifically 'human' quality that can't be diminished based on circumstance. Is that better now? Nice and broad, can be interpreted a hundred different ways.



    Believing in a common 'humanity' would obviously lead one to think that convergent civilization is a direct result of our similarity. Are you saying you don't believe that humans civilizations are convergent to some degree? How do you explain the fact that the Mesoamerican civilizations developed agriculture, organized religion, architecture, and a caste-like societal organization, all while being almost totally isolated from the rest of the world? Why can comparisons so easily be drawn between their civilizations and those found in the 'Old World'? What do you mean when you say that I "excluded common origin"? Most normal and/or sane people would accept that we have a common origin, that fact can't be disputed. But I'd guess that those who argue against the humanist interpretation would say that since the time of our common ancestor, human populations have diverged to a greater extent than is accepted by the mainstream. They would probably believe that though humans have much in common, like the simple fact that we all speak and practice a culture, different "paths" that human populations have taken could have fostered more dissimilarity than is normally thought.

    Maybe you believe that the differences between individuals are so great that there can't possibly be a human collective?
    You are much mistaken about where I come from. I am a Christian.

    Concerning the convergent civilization again, I am not disputing that humans have a common origin. But if civilizations are convergent, and if humans have a common origin, then we wouldn't have such different civilizations as those that we have. You seem to think that culture and language, for example, are just barriers that human beings have raised up in spite of their similarities, but that doesn't seem so likely to me, and nor does it support your case. How do you explain that languages that likely do share a common origin at least to some extent, like Greek and Swedish for example, or Finnish and Korean for another example, have since developed to have less and less in common? If you want to know why agriculture developed, then how about it people need to eat or they die, and agriculture is an efficient way for steady food production! If there was really a tendency towards one single civilization as you say, then we wouldn't have a historical record disproving that with much force. History shows a strong tendency towards differentiation, and not convergence. Convergence pretty much only happens when political ties are strong.

    The same thing can be seen in genetics even: There is a tendency towards differentiation, not convergence. Genetic differentiation is greater today than ever before.

  2. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Last Online
    04-24-2015 @ 11:12 PM
    Location
    Yavin 4
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Human
    Ethnicity
    Revanite
    Ancestry
    Outer Rim Territories
    Taxonomy
    Mandalorian
    Politics
    Kratocratic Imperialism
    Hero
    Xendor
    Religion
    Power through rebirth
    Gender
    Posts
    1,966
    Thumbs Up/Down
    Received: 2,220/147
    Given: 902/107

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Default

    Your question is somehow ambiguous.

    All humans share basic behavioural similarities (reactions to hunger, pain, fear and the like); but not all of them share the same fate.
    Just like every life form, humans live and die depending on their individual capacities. Technology enhances, doesn't change, this sempiternal fact.

  3. #13
    Veteran Member dude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Online
    03-22-2019 @ 09:39 PM
    Location
    Overhere
    Ethnicity
    Ignorant
    Ancestry
    Nobody cares.
    Country
    United States
    Region
    Kansas
    Taxonomy
    Ignorant
    Politics
    Unaffiliated
    Religion
    Non religious
    Age
    41
    Gender
    Posts
    4,708
    Thumbs Up/Down
    Received: 3,523/186
    Given: 2,289/20

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Default

    Humanity is fake, you can't believe in it.
    "I don't dislike you, I simple don't care!"

  4. #14
    Veteran Member
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Jackson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Last Online
    09-17-2017 @ 12:33 AM
    Location
    UK
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Bell Beaker ish
    Ethnicity
    English
    Ancestry
    29/32 English, 2/32 Welsh, 1/32 Scottish
    Country
    Great Britain
    Region
    England
    Y-DNA
    I-M253
    mtDNA
    U5a1b4
    Gender
    Posts
    7,342
    Thumbs Up/Down
    Received: 6,042/34
    Given: 11,184/33

    1 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Default

    To a certain extent, we are all similar - which is obvious. But i think acting on it any further than that politically would be a mistake, unless it is try and promote peaceful relationships between nations.

    I honestly don't think all of humanity could be united without an exterior threat and even then i think it would be a struggle due to our divisive nature, however it is our divisive nature that is fundamental to our progress as a whole. The course of evolution could be seen as biological entities dividing in their approach to life until they become distinct groups by their own right which then develop further along a separate path and bring the ever present biological 'diversity' that certain types bang on about so much. To unite and homogenize on a global level is to reduce global diversity for the sake of short term local political endeavors, it's not progress.

  5. #15
    Veteran Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:46 PM
    Ethnicity
    East Slavic
    Country
    Brunei
    Y-DNA
    R-M198
    Gender
    Posts
    14,401
    Thumbs Up/Down
    Received: 9,281/256
    Given: 5,772/345

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

    Default

    We're all just humans



Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Humanity reached a new Low
    By RussiaPrussia in forum News Articles
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 12-30-2013, 09:39 PM
  2. Humanity's future?
    By Sultan Suleiman in forum Philosophy
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 08-22-2012, 07:55 PM
  3. A Better Future For Humanity
    By Hedgerider in forum Politics & Ideology
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 07-14-2010, 03:37 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •