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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishmend View Post
    When did I say that? I said they were not Iranic but a different branch of IE.
    Let alone the fact that Tocharians were not even IE. "Tocharian" (a Turkic ethnonym) is just a philological euphemism for 3 different IE dialects once spoken in some parts of the tarim basin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Let alone the fact that Tocharians were not even IE. "Tocharian" (a Turkic ethnonym) is just a philological euphemism for 3 different IE dialects once spoken in some parts of the tarim basin.
    We don't know enough to say so, but they are assumed to be an IE-people and their language as well

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    Western Yugurs are the bona fide descendants of the Uyghur confederation, fleeing to what is now Gansu province after the destruction of the Uyghur Khaganate. As a result they speak a direct descendant of the Old Turkic/Old Uyghur language.





    http://members.home.nl/marcmarti/yug...t/folklore.pdf
    http://members.home.nl/marcmarti/yug...urLanguage.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Let alone the fact that Tocharians were not even IE. "Tocharian" (a Turkic ethnonym) is just a philological euphemism for 3 different IE dialects once spoken in some parts of the tarim basin.
    Tocharians were indo-europeans, and they are predominately caucasians during the early bronze age period. A lot of them do have Turanid features, and they are mostly came from western eurasian males and eastern eurasian females:
    "In 2009, the remains of individuals found at a site in Xiaohe were analyzed for Y-DNA and mtDNA markers. They suggest that an admixed population of both west and east origin lived in the Tarim basin since the early Bronze Age. The maternal lineages were predominantly East Eurasian haplogroup C with smaller numbers of H and K, while the paternal lines were all West Eurasian R1a1a. The geographic location of where this admixing took place is unknown, although south Siberia is likely."
    Chunxiang Li, Hongjie Li, Yinqiu Cui, Chengzhi Xie, Dawei Cai, Wenying Li, Victor H Mair, Zhi Xu, Quanchao Zhang, Idelis Abuduresule, Li Jin, Hong Zhu and Hui Zhou (2010).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Tocharians were indo-europeans, and they are predominately caucasians during the early bronze age period. A lot of them do have Turanid features, and they are mostly came from western eurasian males and eastern eurasian females:
    "In 2009, the remains of individuals found at a site in Xiaohe were analyzed for Y-DNA and mtDNA markers. They suggest that an admixed population of both west and east origin lived in the Tarim basin since the early Bronze Age. The maternal lineages were predominantly East Eurasian haplogroup C with smaller numbers of H and K, while the paternal lines were all West Eurasian R1a1a. The geographic location of where this admixing took place is unknown, although south Siberia is likely."
    Chunxiang Li, Hongjie Li, Yinqiu Cui, Chengzhi Xie, Dawei Cai, Wenying Li, Victor H Mair, Zhi Xu, Quanchao Zhang, Idelis Abuduresule, Li Jin, Hong Zhu and Hui Zhou (2010).
    Did you ever heard of Mahmud al-Kashgari before?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Did you ever heard of Mahmud al-Kashgari before?
    Yes, i do. He written a book in the 11th century that describes the languages and cultures of the Turkic peoples for the Arab caliphs in Baghdad. What of him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Yes, i do. He written a book in the 11th century that describes the languages and cultures of the Turkic peoples for the Arab caliphs in Baghdad. What of him?
    he listed a tribe with the name Tokhar within Turkic Oghur group that has nothing to do with the Tocharians who supposedly spoke an IE language.


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    Nitpicking doesn't change the the fact that most of the Uyghurs are diverse. Their phenotypes are varied. Most of them are admixtures of Caucasoid (Central Asian actually) and Mongoloid. You can even read it on wiki.

    You definitely have not seen an Ugyhur with strong Mongoloid/East Asia phenotypes/features... (just for the sake of argument) just say 50% Caucasoid (Central Asian) 50% Mongoloid... just say he/she can easily pass as an average Chinese people (citizen of China) that you see walking on the street.

    Google:
    古力娜扎 Gul Nazar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_xYXUhvAIk
    帕丽扎提 Parissa
    麥迪娜 Madina Memet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0n5OAQBGGw
    迪丽热巴 迪力木拉提 Dilraba Dilmurat
    努尔比亚 Nurbiya

    Watch their videos. Look through hundreds of their pictures from multiple angles. You will see the Mongoloid features. Go to their Weibo pages. She works in the showbiz and was regular on the Chinese drama/movie. Try comparing 古力娜扎 Gul Nazar to 楊冪. They're twins LOL.

    You can't even tell the differences when they stand next to their fellow colleagues.
    Convince me really hard if you think they had no Mongoloid inside of them.

    Notice the Uyghur/Islamic names? Yes. Genocide of the Uyghur is happening and they still can and allowed to keep their names and their numbers are growing. Tell that to those Chinese descendants in Indonesia and Thailand and Philippines with their bizarre names. And you dare to criticize about the Chinese gov't forcing the Uyghur to assimilate? You guys are funny and not too bright, you know?

    Taiwanese Chinese and Uyghur couple.
    /watch?v=dIdmTIH6bPE

    Big deal, right? Well, not really. They have been mixing with each other since forever.
    Last edited by meis; 06-30-2015 at 03:20 PM.

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