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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Could you share coordinates or admixtures of this sample?
    DA142 in G25 SS.

    Gedmatch: Z759882

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    I always ask the same thing when commenting on the genetic origin of the proto-Bulgarians. And that is: on the basis of what research on genetic material are these claims made? When are the results of such a study compared with the genetics of modern Bulgarians? Given that we have neither the first study nor the second - comparatively how do you make your statements?
    And something else. In order to be able to comment even in a historical aspect, you must be well acquainted with the history not only of the Bulgarians of the 5th-9th centuries, but also of the history of the region they inhabited, as well as of all historical and archaeological information about them concerning this historical and archaeological period. If the goal is like some minors where the Bulgarians are shouting are Tatar-Mongols / although their hollow heads should know that at that time there are no Tatars or Mongols /, and the others are shouting they are not Slavs / well no, we are not Slavs, we are far from the Slavs / this is no longer serious, but a projection of personal vision, but not scientific
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    Quote Originally Posted by lev View Post
    I think they came from Atlantic shore
























    ... I mean Turkic people
    Yes. That's why we call them Paleo-Atlantids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travv View Post
    Yes. That's why we call them Paleo-Atlantids.
    Proto Bulgar Dna looks quite Oghuric Turkic but idk modern bulgarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Negah View Post
    You and your family look very Turkmen
    Quote Originally Posted by Turul Karom View Post
    They look fresh from their horsebacks and ready to have some tea.
    A very proud family. Can pass in most areas of Eurasia as native.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    DA142 in G25 SS.

    Gedmatch: Z759882
    is RUS_Nomad_MAA142 Bulgar sample?

    Bulgarians are about 4-7% Bulgar in this case

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
    Distance: 3.3988% / 0.03398842
    60.6 BGR_IA
    34.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    5.0 RUS_Nomad_MA



    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianF2
    Distance: 2.4425% / 0.02442480
    50.6 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    42.2 BGR_IA
    7.2 RUS_Nomad_MA

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianE2
    Distance: 2.9802% / 0.02980160
    49.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    45.6 BGR_IA
    5.0 RUS_Nomad_MA

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
    Distance: 2.0433% / 0.02043264
    57.2 BGR_IA
    38.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    4.0 RUS_Nomad_MA

    Target: Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
    Distance: 2.3980% / 0.02398028
    53.8 BGR_IA
    40.8 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    5.4 RUS_Nomad_MA


    Do you know which Bulgarian individual samples are from north Bulgaria and which are from south?
    Last edited by Abriekman; 11-24-2020 at 03:46 PM.
    Target: Abriekman_scaled
    Distance: 1.7824% / 0.01782374 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.4 Eastern_Europe
    7.2 Southern_Europe
    5.4 Middle_East

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    In case of Iranic-Turkic theory of Bulgars, Bulgarians are 7-11% Bulgar

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
    Distance: 3.3176% / 0.03317601
    60.0 BGR_IA
    32.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    7.6 KAZ_Molaly_LBA

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianF2
    Distance: 2.1881% / 0.02188145
    47.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    41.6 BGR_IA
    11.2 KAZ_Molaly_LBA

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianE2
    Distance: 2.6161% / 0.02616090
    45.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    44.8 BGR_IA
    10.0 KAZ_Molaly_LBA

    Target: Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
    Distance: 1.8577% / 0.01857656
    56.8 BGR_IA
    36.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    7.0 KAZ_Molaly_LBA

    Target: Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
    Distance: 2.1915% / 0.02191467
    53.2 BGR_IA
    38.0 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    8.8 KAZ_Molaly_LBA



    Distance: 3.6556% / 0.03655648
    Target: KAZ_Molaly_LBA | ADC: 2x RC
    61.1 Tajik
    38.9 Besermyan
    Target: Abriekman_scaled
    Distance: 1.7824% / 0.01782374 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.4 Eastern_Europe
    7.2 Southern_Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    is RUS_Nomad_MAA142 Bulgar sample?

    Do you know which Bulgarian individual samples are from north Bulgaria and which are from south?
    Yes, it is. All of the samples are from Sofia, and all from a different background, presumably.

    You should use an additional East-Med reference together with BGR_IA.

    This is what we have by using this SS:

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.00376,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.00012,-0.002754


    Noting it again, we have to see an influence on Bulgarians which separates them from their neighbours. The Turkic admixture in Romanians came from Cumans -this is what we understand from historical information-. Results suggest the same Cuman heritage also in Bulgaria; as we see the similar ratio of Turkic admixture there. We can also assume that the Turkic heritage in Romania and Bulgaria are from Bulgars, but this would not be much realistic. Albeit, in that story we can assume that Bulgarians and Romanians are 2-5% Proto Bulgar.

    But when not assuming it is from Cumans and not from Proto-Bulgars, then we see none Proto-Bulgar admixture in the region. You can also replace Turkic with Alanic and Iranic. But what you will see is shared Iranic/Alanic scores all over the Balkans. See:

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Alanic:RUS_Alan_MA,0.1099532,0.1045994,-0.025418,-0.0089794,-0.0262818,0.0051316,0.0054522,-0.0072458,-0.0456908,-0.0248206,0.0028256,0.0098314,-0.0166796,-0.0065784,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.0059036,-0.0057318,0.0034768,0.003893,0.006529,0.0015532,-0.0004094,-0.0036644


    Or use the Molaly sample which you used.

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Iranic:KAZ_Molaly_LBA,0.094473,-0.010155,0.012822,0.050388,-0.041546,0.016176,-0.002115,-0.008538,-0.02802,-0.03262,-0.005846,0.003297,-0.0055,-0.017478,0.015201,0.008618,-0.005998,-0.000633,-0.000754,-0.000125,-0.008235,0.002102,0.004683,-0.003012,0.006706





    So now it is a requirement to ask, what makes Bulgarians special here?


    Nothing.

    So where are the Proto-Bulgarian heritage?

    Nowhere.

    Even if we are going to search for it, as the only genetic outliers in the Balkans and also modern-day inhabitants of the Proto-Bulgar region, Balkan Turks are the only candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Yes, it is. All of the samples are from Sofia, and all from a different background, presumably.

    You should use an additional East-Med reference together with BGR_IA.

    This is what we have by using this SS:

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Turkic:RUS_Nomad_MA,0.087644,-0.090382,0.050534,0.031331,-0.036314,-0.008925,0.00376,0.007384,-0.009613,-0.016037,-0.007632,-0.001499,0.002527,-0.007019,-0.002172,-0.007425,-0.011735,0.004814,0.004022,-0.001,-0.004243,0.008779,0.001972,-0.00012,-0.002754


    Noting it again, we have to see an influence on Bulgarians which separates them from their neighbours. The Turkic admixture in Romanians came from Cumans -this is what we understand from historical information-. Results suggest the same Cuman heritage also in Bulgaria; as we see the similar ratio of Turkic admixture there. We can also assume that the Turkic heritage in Romania and Bulgaria are from Bulgars, but this would not be much realistic. Albeit, in that story we can assume that Bulgarians and Romanians are 2-5% Proto Bulgar.

    But when not assuming it is from Cumans and not from Proto-Bulgars, then we see none Proto-Bulgar admixture in the region. You can also replace Turkic with Alanic and Iranic. But what you will see is shared Iranic/Alanic scores all over the Balkans. See:

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Alanic:RUS_Alan_MA,0.1099532,0.1045994,-0.025418,-0.0089794,-0.0262818,0.0051316,0.0054522,-0.0072458,-0.0456908,-0.0248206,0.0028256,0.0098314,-0.0166796,-0.0065784,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.0059036,-0.0057318,0.0034768,0.003893,0.006529,0.0015532,-0.0004094,-0.0036644


    Or use the Molaly sample which you used.

    Code:
    Roman:TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA,0.1050018,0.1515678,-0.042332,-0.082365,-0.0040775,-0.0274705,-0.0024088,-0.0077882,-0.011402,0.028429,0.0097435,0.007006,-0.0120788,0.0030965,-0.0138435,-0.004475,0.0116693,-0.0021538,0.0087988,-0.00741,-0.0031817,0.0061828,-0.0048065,0.0030725,-0.001407
    Roman:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
    Roman:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
    Slav:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305,0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
    Slav:CZE_Early_Slav,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
    Slav:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,0.134311,0.123895,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
    Iranic:KAZ_Molaly_LBA,0.094473,-0.010155,0.012822,0.050388,-0.041546,0.016176,-0.002115,-0.008538,-0.02802,-0.03262,-0.005846,0.003297,-0.0055,-0.017478,0.015201,0.008618,-0.005998,-0.000633,-0.000754,-0.000125,-0.008235,0.002102,0.004683,-0.003012,0.006706





    So now it is a requirement to ask, what makes Bulgarians special here?


    Nothing.

    So where are the Proto-Bulgarian heritage?

    Nowhere.

    Even if we are going to search for it, as the only genetic outliers in the Balkans and also modern-day inhabitants of the Proto-Bulgar region, Balkan Turks are the only candidates.
    Question is what should we use to know percentage. Amateur model of andre did Bulgarians, Gagauz scoring some Alanic, while other Balkanites were 0% on this model, but Greeks score some because of Anatolian admixture, so we can say East Med admixture in Bulgarians confuses with part of Alanic, in case of Turkic I think we should use other samples for other Balkanic populations to compare them to Bulgarians
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    I am interested, if Romanians and Bulgarians have the same amount of Turkic admixture, why do Romanians very often score it on calculators and commercial tests, while Bulgarians not?
    It's all about the samples. Turkic admixture is widespread among Wallachians and Moldovians, and Szekels in Transylvania. While also present in some Bulgarians -no region specified- Romanians seem to have more because we have more proof of it, and they have more population. Bulgarians as a whole tested lesser than Romanians, and also have a lesser population.

    On the other hand, Romanians might indeed have more Turkic, and Bulgarians have lesser. In this option, the current result would be a result of the falsification of current Bulgarian-Romanian samples.

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