Do you support or oppose school uniforms?

[♥ Lily ♥]

I support it for all the reasons I mentioned on a previous page of this thread.

All children from age 5-16 are required by national compulsary law in the United Kingdom to wear smart school uniforms and also P.E. kit uniforms duing P.E. lessons too;- whether they attend a public school (which means an elite and aristocratic private school in the UK,) a state school, an independent school, a private school, a Church of England school, a Grammar School (for intelligent children of any background who pass their 11+ exams at age eleven and academically earn their places there,) a boys school, a girls school, infant (primary) school, junior school, secondary/senior school, or an academy.

English primary school pupils wearing their school uniforms.

It is difficult to trace the origins of the uniform as there is no comprehensive written history, but rather a variety of known influences.

School uniforms are believed to be a practice which dates to the 16th century in the United Kingdom. It is believed that the Christ Hospital School in London in 1552 was the first school to use a school uniform.

The earliest documented proof of institutionalised use of a standard academic dress dates back to 1222 when the then Archbishop of Canterbury ordered the wearing of the cappa clausa.

This monastic and academic practice evolved into collegiate uniforms in England, particularly in charity schools where uniform dress was often provided for poor children. Universities, primary schools and secondary schools used uniforms as a marker of class and status. Although school uniforms can often be considered conservative and old-fashioned, uniforms in recent years have changed as societal dress codes have changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_uniform

Devonshire secondary school pupils in south-west England in their school uniforms


Cornish junior school pupils in the school P.E. kits.


Cornish secondary school pupils



Welsh school pupils


Manx school pupils (from the Celtic Isle of Man, a Crown Dependancy island which still has a 1000 year old unique Viking-style parliament with traditional Viking customs on their island.)



Scottish secondary (senior) school pupils

In the United States, a movement toward using uniforms in state schools began when Bill Clinton addressed it in the 1996 State of the Union, saying: "If it means that teenagers will stop killing each other over designer jackets, then our public schools should be able to require their students to wear uniforms."

As of 1998 approximately 25% of all U.S. public elementary, middle and junior high schools had adopted a uniform policy or were considering a policy, and two thirds were implemented between 1995 and 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_uniform

Irish school students wearing smart uniforms


Isle of Wight school pupils in uniforms



Students in the English-French speaking Channel Island, Crown Dependancy, and Bailiwick of Jersey


School uniforms at Blancheland College in the Channel Island and Crown Dependancy and Bailiwick of Guernsey.


Etonians (students at the elite public school of Eton in England, where Prince William, Royalty, Conservative (Tory) politicians, etc, studied.)

A public school in England and Wales is an older, student-selective, fee-charging, independent secondary school which caters primarily for children aged between 11 or 13 and 18.

The term "public" should not be misunderstood to mean that these schools are part of the public sector (that is, funded by the government's taxation of the public); they are in fact part of the private sector. However in Scotland, where a state-funded education system began roughly 300 years prior to England's, the term "public school" is used in a different sense than in England—in the sense of a school administered by the local government to serve the children of that area.



Traditionally, public schools were all-male boarding schools, although most now allow day pupils, and many have become either partially or fully co-educational.

Public schools emerged from charity schools established to educate poor scholars, the term "public" being used to indicate that access to them was not restricted on the basis of religion, occupation, or home location, and that they were subject to public management or control, in contrast to private schools which were run for the personal profit of the proprietors.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public...nited_Kingdom)

Etonians wearing their uniforms.

[Decius]

I am for school uniforms.

[♥ Lily ♥]

The earliest school uniforms in England dates back to 1222.

These children (pictured below) are in Victorian era schools (the era of child labour and the industrial revolution in England,) which were very strict schools, as children would be beaten with canes if they didn't sit-up straight, or pay attention, or do their homework on time, or spoke before they had permission from an adult to speak, etc.

In the strict (but polite) Victorian society, children were to be seen, but not heard, and had to ask for permission to speak at the dinner table, etc.

Victorian females would sometimes collapse in the summertime heat while wearing very tight corsets and long dresses.

I'm not sure if children from the working-class were able to have an education, or learn to read and write, as many of them were used by the ruling elite for child labour. I don't think universal free education and free healthcare existed in the Victorian era. They didn't have much of a middle-class either;- people were either very rich or very poor during the Victorian era.

These children from the Victorian era don't smile much and their facial expressions often look very serious, tired, sad, and forlorn. Their complexions look a bit sickly and unhealthy. I don't think they had much of a childhood. Their uniforms were an indication of their social class in society.

Children from the poorer working class were often used to work as chimney sweeps, as they were small enough to climb inside the dark, narrow, and tall chimneys, where they breathed-in dirt and cleaned-out soot for the rich people. Working-class children were also used to operate machines in factories during England's Industrial Revolution for long hours and very low pay, which also caused them injuries and premature deaths.

Despite the English population more than doubling in Victorian England (with many people living in overcrowded shared rooms in small houses,) a lot of children died young from infanty mortality and malnourishment in Victorian England.

Adults from the working-classes were often homed in workhouses (a dreaded place to end-up that was home to millions of poor people) and when they died, they'd be chucked-out with the rubbish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdlIMgFE6g

Psychiatric hospitals were invented in England first. Unwell people vanished behind the high walls of asylums in Victorian England, and were never seen again. Doctors cruelly experimented on their patients and subjected them to torture. The famous Bethlem Royal Hospital is a psychiatric hospital in London which still operates to this day, (dubbed as 'Bedlam',) and it's inspired many horror movies and books. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital

Modern school uniforms have changed with the times.

[The Lawspeaker]

All for it as they diminish class differences and create school cohesion. Plus: they look smart, force students treat them (and thus also themselves) with both discipline and respect and any weirdo's trying to enter the school would be easily found out. As a model, I prefer adopting the British school uniforms with the modification that the skirt will be longer (slightly below the knee).

[Marinus]

All for it as they diminish class borders and create school cohesion. Plus: they look smart, force students treat them (and thus also themselves) with both discipline and respect and any weirdo's trying to enter the school would be easily found out. As a model, I prefer adopting the British school uniforms with the modification that the skirt will be longer (slightly below the knee).

I 2nd this.

[alnortedelsur]

I'm kind of neutral about it. I'm even used to the idea, since in Venezuela primary School, Junior School and High School students use uniform.

[Peterski]

Generally against, but in some selected schools why not.

[Kamal900]

I'm neutral about it.

[Ryujin]

I'm all for school uniforms. Because it nullifies all kinds of socio-economic inequalities between students. It might be weird for someone like me who sympathizes with the American ways to say this, but that is it.

Unfortunately the current government has abolished it but fortunately in my time there were uniforms.

[RenaRyuguu]

Nah I don't like them. Used to wear one and ew it's scratchy. I prefer my sweats