Russian ethno-nationalism

[Jehan]

I heard an ethnic russian said that Russia should improve their relation with asia and not with europe because russia is more asiatic. But it was coming from the bottle of vodka we drunk and the deception that european still see russian as the enemy.

[Sandman]

Don't you think this asertion is a bit ridiculous ??

The Marquis de Custine writes at the beginning of the nineteenth century, after a long journey through Russia, the Russians have in them incomprehensible to Europeans figure and innate submissive slave, reinforced by religion is always ready to agree to absolute degradation by the authority. Car could, for example, ranks slap against the army generals who treat it as the norm.

[Leto]

MANY people in the West mistakenly overestimates Europeanism in Russia. In fact the Russians, their civilization and mentality is closer to Asian countries.

No. It's a Slavic Orthodox civilization.

[Duke]

Russia is big, bigger then europe, why should it?

[Sandman]

No. It's a Slavic Orthodox civilization.

Russia is mongo-turanian civilization.
Mongol invasion of Rus had a great influence on the Eastern Slavs. Therefore, today we observe in Russia a powerful influence of Turanian civilization.
Characteristics of the Turanian civilization.
"Turanian civilization, created the blue Mongols of Genghis Khan. Its primary feature is the military organization adapted to the mobile war. The best characterized by the notions of camp-movement-space. Thus, family ties are in this civilization very loose. In a civilization that is not public law, and there are only private, derived from orders of the ruler. The state is grange ruler, and his will is law. Society does not have any rights and must not be organized - this is from the state. Thus, any organizations are controlled centrally, and any grassroots initiative is eliminated. The authority is absolute, and the ideal ruler is cruel despot. In view of the superior, each of the members of the public remains in the position of a slave or servant - citizens are not at all. In the West, the citizen lives in the country - Turanid exclusively in the state. All matters are matters of state, and there is such that it could be regarded as exclusively his own. The entire property is owned by the ruler and can be only tenant of any part of the property. Rent This may, however, be revoked at any time by the will of the ruler, who has the right to expropriate anyone he wishes. The whole organization of life is military in nature, imperious, and thus it is maximally centralized. Bureaucracy is power, not the people. Acts on behalf of the ruler and only to him is responsible, and not against the people with whom he was dealing. Therefore, life is very mechanical - as in the military and it has no organic elements. Because social organization is war develops when the state wins when a military power and success. When no victories, conquests, the state weakens or even breaks down, because the major social effort is directed towards building military strength.
The Turanian civilization nations do not arise in the European sense. There are only conglomerates of peoples, tribes and races, which combines the winning star chief. Temujin, the first Genghis Khan, organized people of different races, ethnic origin and religion in an efficient army and led her to conquer the world. Wherever he stood, he organized life in the military, leaving his subordinates as local rulers. Many of them eventually emancipated themselves from the Mongol supremacy and continued as a new absolute rulers, acting according to the same method. Frequently, the people in this way derive their name from some military ruler, Seljuks, Osmans and others. Big role in this civilization plays romanticism and legends surrounding a successful ruler. When a strong leader is gone, comes "smut," a time of anxiety. There is confusion and weakness. The emergence of a new "tyrant" is the end of the "Troubles", a return to normality.
Turanian civilization has no relation to religion. This area is usually indifferent to the ruler, as long as that does not interfere clergy in his case, not trying to play the role of the state and not criticized power in any case. No ethics does not apply to the ruler and never be judged from the position of ethics.
Today obviously we see Turanian civilization in Russia.
There autocracy is the norm. It does not matter whether it is a chan, tcar, first secretary or president. He is the most loved and accepted, if its power is free of any restrictions; must be a winner. Turanian people do not accept losing leaders as rulers. So he has to prove that his sway and influence continue to grow. He is never criticized, nor contested.
Do not expect that Russia suddenly adopt a democratic system, because the people do not expect it. Invited to vote will vote as ruler tells them, and any opposition will of course be crushed. A good example of the Russian way of thinking is a famous saying of Tsar Nicholas II after it was fully submerged under Tsushima Baltic fleet in 1904 as part of the war with Japan. When, in the wake of criticism of the Western press were protests that it was a mistake to send the Baltic fleet around the globe on the water Japanese Tcar said, "What does this rabble wants from me and interfering? It was my fleet. "Thirteen years later the Tsar was forced to abdicate and was later killed by the Bolsheviks, and today is regarded in Russia as a saint and martyr, and loved in spite of all its imperfections. The Bolsheviks quickly returned to the same despotic methods of government, and even Stalin is remembered with nostalgia by many. Governments Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin were troubled times. State ownership became private property oligarchs. Now, however, is Putin. Tsar returned dispossessed oligarchs and Russia is back to normal - Turanian normality. The Lord must be successful in order to remain on the throne. Today, they may influence other countries by making their supply of oil and gas. Certainly will be growing attempts to restore dominion over lands that Russia lost under Gorbachev and Yeltsin."

[glass]

British journalist about Poland lol

The second they opened [the Schengen Agreement] up, everyone in Poland was just like ‘Cool, let’s get the fuck out of Poland’ and they just went to the next countries

Maybe, it’s like when you have the Olympics somewhere in Africa and they can all pretend they’re part of the developed world for two weeks, and then everyone just leaves and they’re still in the dirt

Polish police is colleting tribute from drivers, money, beer, vegetables...
lol?

[igo112]

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[Basil]

There's nothing good that comes from the West. Such phrases like 'racial brothers' are found only on the web. Sure thing an average Russian feels more closely related to Tatars, Chuvashs, Bashkirs etc. They are our folks; we have common history for hundreds of years, common mentality; they don't wage wars against us. Ethno-nationalism in Russia is on a decline.

[Austrvegr]

How big of a thing is this?

It baffles me that this whole Eurasianist ideology is so common in Russia.

No, it is not common.

It seems that Russia is a country in which ethnic Russians feel closer to the other races of the former Soviet Union than to their racial brothers in the West. Why is this?

Even if it were so, maybe "racial brothers in the West" should look for the cause in themselves? What have Russians seen from "racial brothers in the West" in the last decades apart from the endemic rabid racist Russophobia? How should Russians regard the West currently condoning and encouraging the genocide of Russians in the Ukraine?

Is some sort of independent ethnic Russian state possible, and if so, would it be closer to the West than Russia is at present?

Russia with 80+ ethnic Russian population is an ethnic Russian state (the only alien element is the Northern Caucasus which must be given independence) and it is independent.

What do you mean by West? Do you mean Western governments which are genociding their ethnic white populations or do you mean Western ethnic nationalists who have zero influence on the affairs of the West? Which of them should Russia be closer to?

[Austrvegr]

>ethnicity: polish

Oh, nevermind.

He is most probably Ukrainian pretending to be Polish.