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    Quote Originally Posted by LESM View Post
    São Paulo was white after the immigrants arrived!Nowadays many people of immigrant background mixed with colonials paulistas or with colonials from other states.Santa Catarina looked mostly white when a I was there.
    Of course São Paulo was whote after the immigrants arrived, before it wouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    Of course São Paulo was whote after the immigrants arrived, before it wouldn't be.
    Before the immigrants arrived São Paulo was almost as caboclo(mestizo for others) as North Brazil is today,Amerindian influence in São Paulo's colonial culture is big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LESM View Post
    Before the immigrants arrived São Paulo was almost as caboclo(mestizo for others) as North Brazil is today,Amerindian influence in São Paulo's colonial culture is big.
    I know, like the "língua geral paulista", which was a tupi-based language.

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    they only difference is that light eyes and hair are overrepresented..
    Pretty much this, there is an ideal of beauty world wide that is based in british islanders.
    I think that the less accurated soap operas are the mexican ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques de Imbelloni View Post
    Pretty much this, there is an ideal of beauty world wide that is based in british islanders.
    I think that the less accurated soap operas are the mexican ones.
    i think argentine ones look more like light italians and spaniards...

    i dont know that about british islanders...i remember the ugliest girl in my classroom was a blonde blue eyed girl who was very pale and had a horse face...i think most argentinos like a southern face with a tan AND light eyes

    Something like Mariano Martinez or Sabrina Garciareena




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    Sabrina Garciarena que apellido tan raro, debe ser Garcia Arena pero en algún momento los juntaron en las colonias.

    Parece proceder de Extremadura, no me extraña.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lábaru View Post
    Sabrina Garciarena que apellido tan raro, debe ser Garcia Arena pero en algún momento los juntaron en las colonias.
    me parece que es vasco...la mina aparece aca

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...endencia_vasca

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmv88 View Post
    me parece que es vasco...la mina aparece aca

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...endencia_vasca
    García es Vasco en origen, aunque es uno de los apellidos más comunes en toda España desde la reconquista, pero Garciarena es de Extremadura, Extremadura es una zona repoblada por gente de toda España en su día como casi todo el sur de España, en algún momento no querría algún noble local perder su apellido y juntaron ambos, García y Arena, en uno solo, es curioso, no es muy habitual.

    El apellido Garciarenas tiene escudo heráldico o blasón español, certificado por el Cronista y Decano Rey de Armas Don Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent.

    Se sabe que los Garciarenas tienen o tuvieron radicación, entre otros lugares, en:
    * Extremadura.

    Bibliografía que recoge la historia y el escudo del apellido Garciarenas:

    * Repertorio de Blasones de la Comunidad Hispánica, del Cronista y Decano Rey de Armas Don Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent.

    * Nobiliario de Extremadura, de Adolfo Barredo de Valenzuela y Arrojo, y Ampelio Alonso de Cadenas y López.

    * Blasonario de la Consanguinidad ibérica.
    Siendo extremeño no es raro que pasara a América, Extremadura era la cuna de los conquistadores.

    En cuanto a los apellidos vascos del link, bueno, los vascos fueron junto al resto de castellanos(eran parte de Castilla) y dejaron sus apellidos por toda América, lo que no quiere decir que sea gente de ascendencia vasca, imagino que tendrán sangre de toda la península la mayoría de ellos, excepto algunas familias que emigraran como los italianos en décadas recientes.

    Espada tengo. Lo demás, Dios lo remedie.

    In the west almost all Spain had been subjugated, except that part which adjoins the cliffs where the Pyrenees end and is washed by the nearer waters of the ocean. Here two powerful nations, the Cantabrians and the Asturians, lived in freedom from the rule of Rome.")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques de Imbelloni View Post
    Pretty much this, there is an ideal of beauty world wide that is based in british islanders.
    I think that the less accurated soap operas are the mexican ones.
    Don't know about that. Haven't seen much British influence in most of the actors. I have however seen a lot of Spanish influence. Though it depends what you mean by "Mexican". I have seen plenty of Mexicans that look like the people acting in novelas. Most of the Mexicans that go through the border have the least Euro admixture but I don't believe they represent Mexico as a whole.

    Also you have to take in account the market which each novela targets. For example the star of "una maid en Manhatten" represents the typical Mexican American biracial maid while the rich antagonist is of light skin and eyes. La malqueridawas a soap based on Jacinto Benavente about a rich girl that betrays her mom with her lover. Most high class are of light skin. That is more believable in a storyline than the other way around.

    Now do you consider Fernando Colunga light skin?What about Jorge Salinas? Eugenio derbez? What about Litzy and Sarah Maldonado?
    The Marxist whore Kate Millet 1969:“How do we destroy the family?” she came back.“By destroying the American Patriarch,” they cried exuberantly.“And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied.“By taking away his power!”“How do we do that?”“By destroying monogamy!” they shouted.“How can we destroy monogamy?”“By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!” they resounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmv88 View Post
    i think argentine ones look more like light italians and spaniards...

    i dont know that about british islanders...i remember the ugliest girl in my classroom was a blonde blue eyed girl who was very pale and had a horse face...i think most argentinos like a southern face with a tan AND light eyes

    Something like Mariano Martinez or Sabrina Garciareena



    Yes, down here we still prefer the classical greco-roman canon of beauty over the "HOLLYWOOD SUPERSTAR" canon of beauty.
    this


    over this:

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