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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcelonaAtlantis View Post
    The kurgans/aryans were the basques and the yamnaya culture was the basque/celtic culture.We spilled over to north africa,egypt,etc but our jealous enemies slandered the real moors which werent black like the pathetic afrocentrists say.It doesnt help that our enemies such as the norse,etc taught this lie that the moors were from north africa and non white as if being in north africa made you non white like todays people in north africa and we are talking about centuries ago.

    The real moors/berbers(barbarians but nothing to do with the fake barbarians the norse) have nothing to do with the people known as moroccans or moors today.The goth phoenicians were the real moors/goths/celtiberians/ancient egyptians/real vikings/varangians/scythians/venetians/etruscans,etc.

    Our enemies wanted you to associate moors with non whites to discredit us and to make you dislike the real thing.



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    Bro, you forgot to add the Turkic Bashkirs. They actually got the highscore of Yamna y-dna Z2105/03.
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    So a "source" is another anthro forum?

    Besides, this is still a hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    So a "source" is another anthro forum?

    Besides, this is still a hypothesis.
    no its not

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    I find it odd. First of all, both Yamnaya and Corded Ware are expressions of same ethnic group with a huge cultural/racial overlap, as one would expect considering they were the first stage of breakup in Aryan ethnos.

    Then, why would Basques or Spanish people have such a high incidence of R1b, if that came from Aryans? It's obvious that while Iberians were influenced by Aryans (via Kelts), it's also clear that element CANNOT be dominant in people such as Basques (Iberian speakers) or Spaniards (Romanized Iberians).

    Also, I find it hard to believe that most of Western Europe ancestry is Aryan (as R1b would indicate). At every point in history, pre-Aryan elements have always been dominant in the mix that followed Keltic invasions (be it local CM or neolithic elements). Today this is even more apparent than it was in Antiquity: no more than 10% of Western Europeans are "Nordids".

    Once again, DNA evidence proves worthless in determining people ancestries.


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    R1b is real proto-Indo-European marker, more so than R1a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    R1b is real proto-Indo-European marker, more so than R1a.
    Really? So who was this guy, what language did he speak?:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...en-on-GEDmatch

    On the other hand we are in 2019 and there are still no any R1b-L51 samples from the Steppe.

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    Both R1a and R1b coexisted in samara eneolithic early PIE horizons like Khvalynsk phase II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    R1b is real proto-Indo-European marker, more so than R1a.
    I am THE REAL proto-Indo-European marker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Hkan View Post
    Bro, you forgot to add the Turkic Bashkirs. They actually got the highscore of Yamna y-dna Z2105/03.
    So what. Armenians and Iranians have high levels of R-Z2103 too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimatter View Post
    So what. Armenians and Iranians have high levels of R-Z2103 too..
    A tiny little noise fart of Borzani Kurds, too. They have the same mutation of the maximum Bashkir clade. So basically Turkic sperms from the Urals.

    2) The connection of the Burzyan with the Digorians, now also relies on the fact of the common snip Z2105 inherent in both clans. It is explained by me that the common ancestors of the Burzyans and Digorians lived in the Aral Sea region, at the end of the 1st millennium BC. in the composition of the massagesta confederation of tribes. In my opinion, migrations of the ancestors of the Digorians R1b-Z2105 and Burdjans Z2105 from the Aral Sea to the Urals and the North Caucasus in the beginning are connected with the Alan-Burdjan tribe.

    3) As for the Burzyans and Borzani Kurds, their kinship goes back to the 3rd millennium BC, as indicated by the presence of their common ancestor more than 4 thousand years ago. The negative result on the L584 snapshot confirmed the distant affinity of the Bashkir Burzyans and Kurdish Borzani, the position of this snapshot among the Burzyans in December 2013 of the EHP Suyun; Vol.1, November 2014, №1 [1,2]; ISSN: 2410-1788 33 years was not yet known. L584 was ordered, and as it turned out, the haplotypes of Burzyan and Borzani could not be calculated by the formula SKRJAMM, since they are from different subclades, and L584 is negative in Bashkir Burzians. Now it is absolutely clear that there can be no question of any closer relationship between the borzani and the burzyanas, which could have been less than 4 thousand years ago. There is no doubt that the Burzyan and Borzani had a single origin, but it was more than 4 thousand years ago and the migration of the sub-deposit R1b-M269, in my opinion, came from the Urals to the Caucasus, and not vice versa. ”
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