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    Quote Originally Posted by Aequoreus View Post
    And who are you, an atheist with no connection to any Abrahamic faith, to dictate to us Christians how to be good Christians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes, if they want to remain true to this Middle-Eastern religion's roots.
    Spiritually, the roots of Christianity and Judaism are quite different. From a doctrinal standpoint, Christianity is founded upon the Bible, but Judaism is based upon the Babylonian Talmud. Although they claim it as one of their holy books, the Old Testament (the Torah) is just window dressing to the Jews; the Talmud is what they follow.

    One example of how the Bible and the Talmud are different is in their respective attitudes towards the sacrifice of children to the idol Molech. This practice is sternly condemned by the Bible, but the Talmud has this to say:
    He who gives of his seed to Molech incurs no punishment unless he delivers it to Molech and causes it to pass through the fire. If he gave it to Molech but did not cause it to pass through the fire, or the reverse, he incurs no penalty, unless he does both (Talmud, Sanhedrin 64a).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majar View Post
    What makes you think that?
    Muslims have been the enemies of Christians and Jews for centuries. What makes me think that? History. The Qu'ran. What else should I say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrolf Kraki View Post
    Muslims have been the enemies of Christians and Jews for centuries. What makes me think that? History. The Qu'ran. What else should I say?
    Jewish and Muslim relations have not been wholly negative for centuries. Jews fleeing Catholic persecution mostly settled in Muslim-dominated areas. Jews settled in large numbers in Central Asia and Arab countries, and the Sephardic "Golden Age" happened while they were living under Islamic rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majar View Post
    Jewish and Muslim relations have not been wholly negative for centuries. Jews fleeing Catholic persecution mostly settled in Muslim-dominated areas. Jews settled in large numbers in Central Asia and Arab countries, and the Sephardic "Golden Age" happened while they were living under Islamic rule.
    I realize that Muslim regimes in the past have acted honorably towards nonbelievers, but on a whole they seem to be at odds, especially these days. I don't recall where right now, but it even says in parts of the Qu'ran that the Jew is their mortal enemy, etc. I'll see if I can find the particular sutra.

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    I will rather support Muslims than Jews. Why? Not because I hate Jews or anything similar, but Muslims in general are more noble and decent people than Jews. That is only my opinion, which might be the product of some stereotypes, or my personal experience.

    Jews did suffer during the history, especially during the WWII, that is true, but same did the Muslims, yet Muslims are not acting like Jews which are acting or are on very good way to become someone who they hated so much, Nazis...

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    I think that that Jews should support Israel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Radojica View Post
    I will rather support Muslims than Jews. Why? Not because I hate Jews or anything similar, but Muslims in general are more noble and decent people than Jews. That is only my opinion, which might be the product of some stereotypes, or my personal experience.

    Jews did suffer during the history, especially during the WWII, that is true, but same did the Muslims, yet Muslims are not acting like Jews which are acting or are on very good way to become someone who they hated so much, Nazis...
    More noble??? What? Have you seen the way Muslims treat their own women? Not to mention most of the Arab world consists of Muslim extremists.

    Albert Einstein was a Jew. Remember Relativity?


    If I made a list of all the most important scientific achievements of the last 300 years, I'd bet there'd be ten times as many Jewish contributors than Muslim, even though demographically Muslims far outnumber Jews. Gee, I wonder why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrolf Kraki View Post
    More noble??? What? Have you seen the way Muslims treat their own women? Not to mention most of the Arab world consists of Muslim extremists.

    Albert Einstein was a Jew. Remember Relativity?


    If I made a list of all the most important scientific achievements of the last 300 years, I'd bet there'd be ten times as many Jewish contributors than Muslim, even though demographically Muslims far outnumber Jews. Gee, I wonder why...
    Albert Einstein was a fraud. His wife, Mileva Maric wrote this theory, since Einstein was very poor in math . Google about that, you will see. Might not be true, but might be in the end .

    BTW, he treated her very bad, both her and their children, he did not take care about them.

    And about Muslims way of treating women, well, don't know do you like to generalize and to think that All Muslims are acting like Talibans, but I assure you that is not the case. Muslim has the obligation to treat his wife in the best possible way. Sure, they beat their wives and might even kill them, but tell me, Christians don't do that, Jews don't do that? It has to do with person, not religion. I grew up in the family where I was seeing that on daily basis, but I never smacked or beaten my girlfriend.

    Not to mention most of the Arab world consists of Muslim extremists.
    This is such a horse shit and you know that. Billion of Muslims are extremists?!

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    Christians should support Israel, non-Christians should support Israel, dogs and cats should support Israel, your brother's second cousin's flatmate should support Israel, and everyone should support Israel twice on Sundays.


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