Who are the Dutch most closely related to genetically?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Frisians are Dutch, and Dutch are (mostly) of Frisian descent.



Not close at all really, Drenthe is a north-eastern border province. It's population and its dialects are on the spectrum of the Nethersaxons.

Drenthe is where my Dutch ancestors came from. They came from a village called Hees. Not far from a different village called Ruinen.

[Beit El]

Drenthe is where my Dutch ancestors came from. They came from a village called Hees. Not far from a different village called Ruinen.

It's also the province that has 52 of the 54 visible megalithic tombs (Hunebedden in Dutch, literally 'Giants' beds') in the Netherlands.



It's a region that for most Dutch people is connoted with prehistory and the rural quiet.

[King Claus]

Frisians are Dutch, and Dutch are (mostly) of Frisian descent(originally, yes).



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[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

How closely are they related genetically to people from Sweden and Norway? What makes them different from ethnic Swedes and Norwegians genetically?

[Catkin]

On Eurogenes the North Dutch cluster closely with the Irish, Orcadian and West Scottish for some reason. North Dutch is my closest single population match on K13 and it is also Grace O'Malley's too I think. The South Dutch cluster closer to Germans.

[Graham]

On Eurogenes the North Dutch cluster closely with the Irish, Orcadian and West Scottish for some reason. North Dutch is my closest single population match on K13 and it is also Grace O'Malley's too I think. The South Dutch cluster closer to Germans.

I can do a Euclidean distance of those populations, if anyone wants. Will need to find the averages though for whatever run.

Going by distance on both Calculators.. North Dutch are most similar to the Danish & South Dutch to Western Germany.


K15

North Dutch

Danish 2.4857706
West_Scottish 4.0061259
Icelandic 4.1138263
Irish 4.1538991
Southeast_English 4.8957238

South Dutch

French 6.3332895
Southwest_English 6.5611779
West_German 6.8665801
North_German 7.2501747
Southeast_English 7.4065189

K13

North Dutch

Danish 1.7340928
Norwegian 3.0795923
Orcadian 3.183075
Icelandic 3.2547879
Irish 3.8178106

South Dutch

West_German 2.5191952
Southeast_English 7.0702389
French 7.2510321
North_German 8.6474813
Southwest_English 8.9057029

[Dandelion]

Depends on the province. Limburgers/Brabanders/Zeelandic Flemings are obviously closer to us. Other Dutchmen/-women would be closer to Northern Germans, genetically speaking.

[Graham]

Depends on the province. Limburgers/Brabanders/Zeelandic Flemings are obviously closer to us. Other Dutchmen/-women would be closer to Northern Germans, genetically speaking.

I'll add that Belgians, Flemings or North French(separate from South) aren't on the calculators.

SO when I say West Germans or Danes are closer. That is the populations available

[Catkin]

K15

North Dutch

Danish 2.4857706
West_Scottish 4.0061259
Icelandic 4.1138263
Irish 4.1538991
Southeast_English 4.8957238

K13

North Dutch

Danish 1.7340928
Norwegian 3.0795923
Orcadian 3.183075
Icelandic 3.2547879
Irish 3.8178106

The Icelandic figures are interesting. They aren't on Gedmatch are they?

[Graham]

The Icelandic figures are interesting. They aren't on Gedmatch are they?

I don't know. Can remember West Norwegian on one run, probably K15. Don't think there'd be much between those two groups. Edit: I must be wrong though if Iceland shows only.

I prefer K13 to K15 unlike Polako who made the thing.