Are female circumcision and polygamy objectively wrong?

**coolfrenchguy** · 08-13-2019, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by ixulescu

Both female and male genital mutilation are abhorrent shit. If you think genital mutilation has any legitimate use then let adults do it to themselves.

In regards to polygamy, if you like it, you probably also like men blowing up themselves in busy markets.
It's not a much different phenomenon than mass shootings in the US. A certain percentage of destitute men (for whatever reason, partner deprived, wealth deprived etc) prefer to take their own life while taking others as well. Ideology matters little. A far larger importance has the wide availability of weapons to mentally impaired individuals.

poligamy is not always related to islam,in africa amid many ethnic groups is the case and they are not necessary muslims,it's more a tribalistic behaviour

genital mutilation is sick mindfucked and should be banished, but amnesty international and other onusian NGOs are working on it,poligamy even i'am against,it's cultural and related to an ancient period of time where women and childrens could die soon(even until now),many malian workers live like that,but paradoxaly it seems than there is not so much problems in the family cell,but it very related to very some specific ethnic groups,it's a patriarcal behaviour,but i'am mostly against

**Teutone** · 11-15-2022, 08:16 PM

I think its the worst result of the enlightment is to question every aspect of our customs, religion and culture instead of accepting them as they are, it gives individual a per se doubtful approach to their own civilization, if you doubt everything or decipher it, you stand for nothing and it results in the state of current west.

Regardless of that statement.

Statistically monogam nuclear families grant a individual a significant more successful path to adulthood and success rate in adulthood than any other family model. By that also serves a general greater good to society.

**Tooting Carmen** · 11-15-2022, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Teutone

I think its the worst result of the enlightment is to question every aspect of our customs, religion and culture instead of accepting them as they are, it gives individual a per se doubtful approach to their own civilization, if you doubt everything or decipher it, you stand for nothing and it results in the state of current west.

Regardless of that statement.

Statistically monogam nuclear families grant a individual a significant more successful path to adulthood and success rate in adulthood than any other family model. By that also serves a general greater good to society.

But for those whom it is (1) the normal tribal/societal custom and (2) more crucially still, all participants actively consent, should we force them to abandon it in the name of 'progress' and 'modernity'? (I mean people who live in African and MENA countries themselves - immigrants from those places who come to the West should indeed adapt).

**Insuperable** · 11-15-2022, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

Although I can see why feminists in particular object to it, at the same time if that is the usual tribal/societal custom and, more crucially still, all participants consent, then fine.

I asked you not feminists or tribes.

**Teutone** · 11-15-2022, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

But for those whom it is (1) the normal tribal/societal custom and (2) more crucially still, all participants actively consent, should we force them to abandon it in the name of 'progress' and 'modernity'? (I mean people who live in African and MENA countries themselves - immigrants from those places who come to the West should indeed adapt).

The west stands for nothing more than being a tax paying citizen, so I dont think there is any case to tell anyone to adapt anything the west is supposed to stand for.

Ideally we should not even let people in that have traditions and customs that are the polar opposite of ours.

**Comealongwithme** · 11-15-2022, 08:25 PM

Polygamy only makes sense if you have vast resources and enormous wealth to compensate for yourself, your wives and the litter that will inevitably come with, after having relations with said wives. This is likely the reason why it was mostly practiced by the wealthy, you know people who can afford it?

**Tooting Carmen** · 11-15-2022, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Insuperable

I asked you not feminists or tribes.

I personally am ambivalent.

**Insuperable** · 11-15-2022, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

I personally am ambivalent.

You are gay after all. Gays can't have children and nuclear family. Why have 1 one black dude to drill your asshole when you can have 10 at the same time.