NSFW !!! Horrific Images Capture The Sheer Brutality Of War In Ukraine

[Methmatician]

Its going to get even uglier when NATO gets in there too,you ruskies hold on to your mamas that doesn't happen sooner.

I don't think NATO would send troops to Ukraine. The West only very recently officially recognised that the Ukrainian army is fighting Russian troops.

[Sarmatian]

Still pretty old material and tactics in use, deaths would be much higher if the conflict was total war.

Almost 100% of hardware in use is what was left from USSR when it split. That is over 20 years old.

Tactics are dictated by environment. Keep in mind it's the middle of great steppe where 5-8 km of direct visibility is a norm. If you're sitting on a hill you could see as far as 15 km sometimes.

[Loki]

The government troops took a massive beating in Debaltseve. As hard it is may be to believe, govt troops are now outgunned by the separatists it seems.

[Sarmatian]

Its going to get even uglier when NATO gets in there too,you ruskies hold on to your mamas that doesn't happen sooner.

You're so freaking delusional. Do you really think Russians will be afraid of US or NATO? Or is it the way you're trying to encourage yourself because in reality you're so afraid of Russians you have to verbally abuse them without a slightest chance of retaliation to feel any safer?

[Sarmatian]

The government troops took a massive beating in Debaltseve. As hard it is may be to believe, govt troops are now outgunned by the separatists it seems.

Zakharchenko, the leader of DNR, reported they have taken a huge amount of vehicles and various ammunition at Debaltsevo. There were literally trains full of all sorts of ammo taken by DNR.

[Äijä]

Almost 100% of hardware in use is what was left from USSR when it split. That is over 20 years old.

Tactics are dictated by environment. Keep in mind it's the middle of great steppe where 5-8 km of direct visibility is a norm. If you're sitting on a hill you could see as far as 15 km sometimes.

True, but operating artillery from fixed positions for long periods is not really from this century when conventional forces are fighting.

Both should have UAVs and counter-battery units in reserve, maybe only Russia has these?

Same goes for the elementary fixed positions of the infantry, they make good dummy targets but dont offer much real protection.

I could not get Finns to stay in those positions for long periods, they would want to move and scatter around and conceal positions as best as possible, even if in the open.

[Loki]

Zakharchenko, the leader of DNR, reported they have taken a huge amount of vehicles and various ammunition at Debaltsevo. There were literally trains full of all sorts of ammo taken by DNR.

It must have been a large group of fighters that surrounded them! Maybe they truly have Kiev in sight.

[Sarmatian]

It must have been a large group of fighters that surrounded them! Maybe they truly have Kiev in sight.

Not really. According to DNR accounts Ukrainian army had 3 times more troops in Debaltsevo than DNR employed to surround them. All that army was just sitting there on stockpiles of weapons and ammunition waiting for orders. They must've been preparing for something but once they realised they were being surrounded their top command had tried to flee but was shot down. Without appropiate leadership they became disorganised and demoralised. There was no way they could put up a good fight.

[Alchemysta]

You're so freaking delusional. Do you really think Russians will be afraid of US or NATO? Or is it the way you're trying to encourage yourself because in reality you're so afraid of Russians you have to verbally abuse them without a slightest chance of retaliation to feel any safer?

He is so insecure,and the most important,BUTTHURT.

[Sarmatian]

True, but operating artillery from fixed positions for long periods is not really from this century when conventional forces are fighting.

Both should have UAVs and counter-battery units in reserve, maybe only Russia has these?

Same goes for the elementary fixed positions of the infantry, they make good dummy targets but dont offer much real protection.

I could not get Finns to stay in those positions for long periods, they would want to move and scatter around and conceal positions as best as possible, even if in the open.

It's all correct but apparently as this conflict shows us Ukies are not the brightest bunch. It's regular occurence when rebels assaulting an army definately better armed and 3-5 times bigger in numbers yet rebels just destroying them with little effort. Only small diversion groups from Ukies presenting a real problem, most of their army is just a cannon fodder.