East Med examples

[FinalFlash]

The wrong is not with me but with you and Anthropology, most people here don't even understand the aim of Anthropology.


Lebaneze Armenoids and Armenian Armenoids are similar skeletally.

Anthropology. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near~East. 11.
The spread of brachycephalic races. By C. U. ARIËNS KAPPERS.

With regard to the "Armenoid" character of several groups of the Near~East population. first emphasized by VON LUSCHAN I) and confirmed by SELIGMAN 2). DUDLEY BUXTON 3) and others.

The 1. w. i. in the real Lebanese appears to be very much the same as in the Armenians. And if 1 abstract from my 136 Armenians also the (only 10) Armenians in which the index was lower than 81. we see that the "real" Lebanese and tbe "real" Armenians also resemble each other in so far as in both the female 1. w. index is slightly lower.

http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf


More on the Armenoids/Asiatic-Dinarics.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate40.htm

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate41.htm

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate42.htm


Armenoid Armenians, Turks, Assyrians, Syrians, Lebaneze, are same race to me.

Time to accept your Armenoid heritage!

Not even close. Lebanese arent mostly Armenoid but heavily Orientalid, Med and even Arabid influenced. Armenians on the other hand are mostly Armenoid, Mtebid, Caucasid, Alpinid, Med and pontid with some Iranid types thrown in there.

If you're honest, take a look at a bunch of footballers and other people another user and I have posted and tell me that they look Lebanese.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ucasus/page223

[Hellenas]

Not even close. Lebanese arent mostly Armenoid but heavily Orientalid, Med and even Arabid influenced. Armenians on the other hand are mostly Armenoid, Mtebid, Caucasid, Alpinid, Med and pontid with some Iranid types thrown in there.

If you're honest, take a look at a bunch of footballers and other people another user and I have posted and tell me that they look Lebanese.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ucasus/page223

The Dutch anthropologist Ariëns Kappers in his study "Kappers A. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East II" provides data from cephalic index measurements of Lebanese residents and the region near Syria. The cephalic index is very large, close to 85, which means that the Armenoids are majority in Lebanon.



In Lebanon is found the Armenoid, the Arabid, the Eastern Mediterranean type and there also are some Asiatic-Alpines.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2014/02/blog-post_14.html


Anthropology. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near~East. 11.
The spread of brachycephalic races. By C. U. ARIËNS KAPPERS.

With regard to the "Armenoid" character of several groups of the Near~East population. first emphasized by VON LUSCHAN I) and confirmed by SELIGMAN 2). DUDLEY BUXTON 3) and others.

The 1. w. i. in the real Lebanese appears to be very much the same as in the Armenians. And if 1 abstract from my 136 Armenians also the (only 10) Armenians in which the index was lower than 81. we see that the "real" Lebanese and the "real" Armenians also resemble each other in so far as in both the female 1. w. index is slightly lower.

http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf


"In the racial anthropology of the early 20th century, the Armenoid type is a subtype of the Caucasian race. According to anthropologist Carleton Coon, the countries of the northern part of Western Asia, namely Anatolia/Asia Minor, the Caucasus, Iran, Upper Mesopotamia and the Levant, were considered the center of distribution of the Armenoid race."

Not even close. Lebanese arent mostly Armenoid

You say.

If you're honest, take a look at a bunch of footballers and other people another user and I have posted and tell me that they look Lebanese.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ucasus/page223

Being same skeletally with someone does mean you have to look exactly like him.


These Armenians.










And these Lebanese.











Are same race to me.

[FinalFlash]

The Dutch anthropologist Ariëns Kappers in his study "Kappers A. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East II" provides data from cephalic index measurements of Lebanese residents and the region near Syria. The cephalic index is very large, close to 85, which means that the Armenoids are majority in Lebanon.



In Lebanon is found the Armenoid, the Arabid, the Eastern Mediterranean type and there also are some Asiatic-Alpines.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2014/02/blog-post_14.html


Anthropology. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near~East. 11.
The spread of brachycephalic races. By C. U. ARIËNS KAPPERS.

With regard to the "Armenoid" character of several groups of the Near~East population. first emphasized by VON LUSCHAN I) and confirmed by SELIGMAN 2). DUDLEY BUXTON 3) and others.

The 1. w. i. in the real Lebanese appears to be very much the same as in the Armenians. And if 1 abstract from my 136 Armenians also the (only 10) Armenians in which the index was lower than 81. we see that the "real" Lebanese and tbe "real" Armenians also resemble each other in so far as in both the female 1. w. index is slightly lower.

http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf


"In the racial anthropology of the early 20th century, the Armenoid type is a subtype of the Caucasian race. According to anthropologist Carleton Coon, the countries of the northern part of Western Asia, namely Anatolia/Asia Minor, the Caucasus, Iran, Upper Mesopotamia and the Levant, were considered the center of distribution of the Armenoid race."




You say.



Being same skeletally with someone does mean you have to look like him.

It seems outdated tbh. If this is in fact the case and the Armeniod types peak in Lebanon, then Armenians either arent mostly Armenoid or people just dont know what an Armenoid type really is lol

Seriously though, did you click on the link I showed you in the last comment? You mind taking a look and letting me know what you think?

[Hellenas]

It seems outdated tbh. If this is in fact the case and the Armeniod types peak in Lebanon, then Armenians either arent mostly Armenoid or people just dont know what an Armenoid type really is lol

Seriously though, did you click on the link I showed you in the last comment? You mind taking a look and letting me know what you think?

People who have agendas usually troll with photos calling Anthropological data as "outdated", without providing any other evidences to refute what is commonly acceptable by Anthropologists.

Seriously though, did you click on the link I showed you in the last comment? You mind taking a look and letting me know what you think?

The man who posted these photos emphasizes on the non-Armenoid physiognomies of Armenians, which is something really bad doing something like that for his own people, it reminds me when Greeks or when other south Europeans start posting very light haired kids(who resemble central and nothern europeans) as representatives of their people.

Just cherry picking.


Armenians.

[Hellenas]

ARMENID (Assyroid (Deniker); vorderasiatischer Typus ("Hither-Asiatic type", Günther))



Mostly brunet, large-headed Taurid type, first carefully described by von Luschan (as Armenoid). It resembles the European Dinarid, with the main exceptions of greater absolute facial dimensions and a larger nose. Armenids are prevalent among Armenians, and common throughout the Middle East, where they blend with Arabids to produce an easily recognizable Middle Eastern phenotype (cf. Assyrid). According to Coon, the Armenid (Armenoid, in his typology) type is the result of dinaricization of Iranids (Irano-Afghans, in his typology). Cf. Anatolid, Caucasid.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ARMENID

[FinalFlash]

People who have agendas usually troll with photos calling Anthropological data as "outdated", without providing any other evidences to refute what is commonly acceptable by Anthropologists.




The man who posted these photos emphasizes on the non-Armenoid physiognomies of Armenians, which is something really bad doing something like that for his own people, it reminds me when Greeks or when other south Europeans start posting very light haired kids(who resemble central and nothern europeans) as representatives of their people.

Just cherry picking.


Armenians.







[img]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.219800

I posted a bunch of photos of random football players my friend, nothing cherry picked but players who play for and have featured for our national team and youth squad.

Btw, I should mention to you that a few of those deceased soldiers you've posted are ethnic Yazidis and not Armenians.



The kid on the right. His name was Kyaram Sloyan, an ethnic Yazidi ^

That dude in the middle in the group photo with the army uniforms is completely atypical and most likely an ethnic Yazidi judging by his phenotype.

I still maintain what I said, the Armenoid, Mtebid, Caucasid, Alpinid, Med types are dominant among us with a minority of other types as well.

The Lebs you talk about are not of the same stock even though some overlap exists between western Armenians and Lebs. The latter is simply too Arabid and Orientalid influenced. I honestly couldn't care less about the supposed skeletal similarities.

[FinalFlash]

The Dutch anthropologist Ariëns Kappers in his study "Kappers A. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near-East II" provides data from cephalic index measurements of Lebanese residents and the region near Syria. The cephalic index is very large, close to 85, which means that the Armenoids are majority in Lebanon.



In Lebanon is found the Armenoid, the Arabid, the Eastern Mediterranean type and there also are some Asiatic-Alpines.

http://fyletika.blogspot.com/2014/02/blog-post_14.html


Anthropology. - Contributions to the Anthropology of the Near~East. 11.
The spread of brachycephalic races. By C. U. ARIËNS KAPPERS.

With regard to the "Armenoid" character of several groups of the Near~East population. first emphasized by VON LUSCHAN I) and confirmed by SELIGMAN 2). DUDLEY BUXTON 3) and others.

The 1. w. i. in the real Lebanese appears to be very much the same as in the Armenians. And if 1 abstract from my 136 Armenians also the (only 10) Armenians in which the index was lower than 81. we see that the "real" Lebanese and the "real" Armenians also resemble each other in so far as in both the female 1. w. index is slightly lower.

http://www.dwc.knaw.nl/DL/publications/PU00015950.pdf


"In the racial anthropology of the early 20th century, the Armenoid type is a subtype of the Caucasian race. According to anthropologist Carleton Coon, the countries of the northern part of Western Asia, namely Anatolia/Asia Minor, the Caucasus, Iran, Upper Mesopotamia and the Levant, were considered the center of distribution of the Armenoid race."




You say.



Being same skeletally with someone does mean you have to look exactly like him.


These Armenians.










And these Lebanese.











Are same race to me.

Never denied some overlap exists, but as a whole both are different from each other. I can show you tons of Lebanese people that can pass off as Greeks and vice versa and make the claim that they're "the same race to me". Hell, Sikeliot practically shows South Euros as interchangeable with levantines but I dont buy that.

But I won't because the reality is quite different.

And these are the more Armenoid and east med leaning Lebs, which clearly exist(again never denied this) but you're ommiting Arabid and orientalid and other types native to their region which quite obviously dominate their overall phenotypes. Psht accusing one of our members of cherrypicking lol

[StonyArabia]

Lebanese don't look like Armenians. Armenians look closer to Turks, Kurds, Assyrians, and North Persian, Azeris people near them. However there is an Armenian community in Lebanon. I think Assyrians are close, but they are more swarthy than Armenians.

[Hellenas]

I posted a bunch of photos of random football players my friend, nothing cherry picked but players who play for and have featured for our national team and youth squad.

The page of the link you provided https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ucasus/page223 only shows some kids and students, posted by an Armenian with a Greek username, Petros Agapetos.

Btw, I should mention to you that a few of those deceased soldiers you've posted are ethnic Yazidis and not Armenians.



The kid on the right. His name was Kyaram Sloyan, an ethnic Yazidi ^

That dude in the middle in the group photo with the army uniforms is completely atypical and most likely an ethnic Yazidi judging by his phenotype.

You are right about the one kid called Kyaram Sloyan but I don't know if you are right about the others.

I still maintain what I said, the Armenoid, Mtebid, Caucasid, Alpinid, Med types are dominant among us with a minority of other types as well.

According to anthropological data Armenians mainly are Armenids. Mtebids/Caucasids also are part Armenoids and they belong in the Taurid parafamily. Armenids are the representatives of your nation.

The Lebs you talk about are not of the same stock even though some overlap exists between western Armenians and Lebs. The latter is simply too Arabid and Orientalid influenced. I honestly couldn't care less about the supposed skeletal similarities.

They are not "supposed", I posted the data, an Armenoid is an Armenoid, either being south European influenced, Slavic influenced, Arabid or Iranid. The main type remains, Armenoid!

[FinalFlash]

Lebanese don't look like Armenians. Armenians look closer to Turks, Kurds, Assyrians, and North Persian, Azeris people near them. However there is an Armenian community in Lebanon. I think Assyrians are close, but they are more swarthy than Armenians.

Pontians and Georgians moreso than Iranians or Kurds especially those from Armenia. If the Iranian football team is representative of their general population then far closer Georgians, Turks, Assyrians and Pontians lol