View Poll Results: Which ones of these Latin American Countries have a higher degree of Spanish ancestry, as a whole?

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  • Puerto Rico

    24 19.35%
  • Cuba

    68 54.84%
  • Mexico

    14 11.29%
  • El Salvador

    2 1.61%
  • Costa Rica

    12 9.68%
  • Venezuela

    6 4.84%
  • Colombia

    12 9.68%
  • Paraguay

    5 4.03%
  • Uruguay

    39 31.45%
  • Argentina

    54 43.55%
  • Chile

    20 16.13%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    Yes and no. It is questionable that Guatemala, Bolivia or the Dominican Republic have "significant" input as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravado View Post
    Interesting selection you made there, @alnortedelsur , which made me look at things from a different perspective...
    Various of those countries have small populations, yet a country as large as Mexico(pop: 110 million) possibly has the double or even the triple in the total number of predominantly spanish folks when compared to such countries.
    I put Mexico in the poll, because I think it has a significant amount of Spanish ancestry (I didn't include countries like Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Peru, or Bolivia, for obvious reasons).

    Northern and Northwestern Mexico (Tamaulipas, Nayarit, Zacatecas, Durango, Aguascalientes, Coahuila, Sinaloa, San Luis de Potosí, Sonora, Chihuahua, Baja California Norte, Baja California Sur, etc), is mostly Euro-mestizo (harnizo/castizo) on average, with a sizable minority of whites/quasi-whites. And the predominant European ancestry in Northern Mexico is Spanish, aside of some minor French ancestry.

    In Central Mexico (Mexico state, DF, Hidalgo, Morelos, Michoacán, Jalisco, Guanajuato, Colima, Tlaxcala, Veracruz, etc) , I guess there is a more balanced proportion of indo-mestizos, balanced mestizos, Euro-mestizos, and whites; and if we balanced out the whole population of its central states, the average for Central Mexico would be balanced mestizo (Mexicans can correct me if I am wrong).

    Southern/southeastern Mexico (Quintana Roo, Mérida, Campeche, Tabasco, Oaxaca, Puebla, Chiapas, Guerrero, etc) on the contrary, is predominantly Amerindian/indo-mestizo, tough there is also a minority of people within the Balanced/mestizo/harnizos/castizo/white range, mostly in the middle and upper class.

    The main European ancestry in Central and southern Mexico, is Spanish, as in Northern Mexico.

    However, if we balanced out the whole Mexican population, Mexico (like El Salvador and Ecuador) is on average, a balanced mestizo country. Then, I think that countries like Chile, Paraguay and most of Costa Rica, are more Spanish admixed, on average, than Mexico. Those three countries, as a whole, are something very similar, on average, to Northern Mexico. This without mentioning countries with huge proportions of fully white Spanish descendants, like Cuba, Argentina and Uruguay.

    Keep in mind that I am not asking about raw numbers. I am asking which Latin American countries have the higher proportion of Spanish ancestry in their average miscegenation (including fully white people, as well as Euro-mestizos with a high degree of Spanish admixture).

    Venezuela has also a considerable degree of Spanish contribution in its whole genome, but (as in the case of Mexico) I don't think it would be on the same level, as in the countries that I voted.
    Last edited by alnortedelsur; 02-22-2015 at 11:56 PM.

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    Thank you all for your opinions, so far.

    I would appreciate to those of you who give your opinions, to estimate a ranking order (if you feel able to do so), of the countries that you think have a high degree of Spanish contribution in their whole genome, going from the most Spanish admixed (in your opinion) to less Spanish admixed ones from your list (but that you think they also have a high degree of overall Spanish contribution in their whole genomes).

    I would also appreciate if some moderator changes to plural the title question on my thread.
    Last edited by alnortedelsur; 02-22-2015 at 11:44 PM.

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    according to this thread it is Cuba

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...hlight=23andme



    the problem is that that cuban results are mostly middle class... and if we add low class people, cuba will have a lot of negros and mulattos who dont have a lot of spanish ancestry ...

    in the other hand you can find pred spanish poor people in argentina, such as maradona, riquelme or tevez...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmv88 View Post
    according to this thread it is Cuba

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...hlight=23andme



    the problem is that that cuban results are mostly middle class... and if we add low class people, cuba will have a lot of negros and mulattos who dont have a lot of spanish ancestry ...

    in the other hand you can find pred spanish poor people in argentina, such as maradona, riquelme or tevez...
    Why isn't Uruguay mentioned there? It would be as high if not higher than Argentina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    Why isn't Uruguay mentioned there? It would be as high if not higher than Argentina.
    Uruguay is an Argentine province...that is why i dont mention it..

    uruguay should be nr 1.....and it isnt on the chart because atm there were not uruguayan results posted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    Why isn't Uruguay mentioned there? It would be as high if not higher than Argentina.
    Venezuela should be in that list too. Not because I think Venezuela is on the top (I didn't vote for Venezuela), but Venezuela has far more overall European contribution (including Spanish) in its whole genome, than countries like Dominican Republic, Peru, Bolivia or Guatemala.

    Countries like Costa Rica, Ecuador, Mexico and El Salvador, should be included too. I don't see them in that ranking.

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    I score 55% iberian myself on 23andme, while being 100% iberian. So those numbers might not be totally accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endovélico View Post
    I score 55% iberian myself on 23andme, while being 100% iberian. So those numbers might not be totally accurate.
    What does your remaining 45% consist of then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie Estefan View Post
    What does your remaining 45% consist of then?
    Several other things. My iberian connections all score in the 50s and some of them in the 60s, and genetically they are all 100% iberian considering where they cluster.
    Which means that 23andme AC is not the most accurate one arround.

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