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    Hey guys , im new to anthropology fourms
    and one of the thing I want to ask about
    is climate adaptation in caucasians oppisite to other races? I mean the most cold adapted humans are mongolids from the north pole theyre short and bulky while cold adapted caucasians such as nordics are tall and slender and the most heat adapted are west africans they are generally tall and slender while heat adapted caucasians are short and more on the mosemorphic side in terms of body type why is it the total oppisite to negroids and mongolids ? im sorry its long and im no expert thanx

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    You seem to be generalizing all Northern European people under one term while they are diverse people in between themselves.

    According to popular anthropology there are two major types of them - Neolithic Leptomorphs and Upper Paleolithic Survivors.

    In the first you have the Neolithic Leptomorphs.As a good example is shown below,a typical Hallstatt Nordid.Tall,slender skinny built(Ectomorph)thin and gracialized facial structure(weak browridge,reduced jawline with compressed gonial angles,reduced cheekbones).These are the NE you are talking about.



    Then there are the Paleolithic survivors.A good example of a Borreby below.Built broad and stocky,robust and wide facial structure(Strong wide browridge,massive jawline with wide gonial angles,massive cheekbones).These are the people who have been in NE much longer than the former and have adapted to its conditions the same way those people living in polar conditions have - became broad and stocky rather than tall and lanky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermixedguy View Post
    Hey guys , im new to anthropology fourms
    and one of the thing I want to ask about
    is climate adaptation in caucasians oppisite to other races? I mean the most cold adapted humans are mongolids from the north pole theyre short and bulky while cold adapted caucasians such as nordics are tall and slender and the most heat adapted are west africans they are generally tall and slender while heat adapted caucasians are short and more on the mosemorphic side in terms of body type why is it the total oppisite to negroids and mongolids ? im sorry its long and im no expert thanx
    These terms are outdated and discontinued in physical anthropology, but "Mongoloid" and "Caucasian" are especially redundant in an ecological sense. Very few "Mongoloid" populations for example show cold adaptation in their cranial-form or bodies, and the "Caucasoid" geographical belt of old race books included too diverse environments. If you want to study climatic adaptation, you should instead look at more localized populations.

    Siberians are cold-adapted. But it is an error to call them "Mongoloid" because most other "Mongoloid" populations (again of old race books) are not adapted to low temperatures, i.e. Southeast Asians, southern Chinese, even Japanese, are not cold-adapted. Not even all northern Chinese are either.

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    I understand that not all mongolid populations are cold adapted im taking about the ones living in cold weather and have adapted to it that originally were mongolid stock and the question was basically why they adapt differently when selected for cold weather and the same with blacks and hot weather
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    Bantu Africans and Mongols are superior to white man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasterz the axemaster View Post
    Bantu Africans and Mongols are superior to white man.
    Yes they can eve survive in depths under water of over 20 thousand feet without wearing special equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyramidologist View Post
    These terms are outdated and discontinued in physical anthropology, but "Mongoloid" and "Caucasian" are especially redundant in an ecological sense. Very few "Mongoloid" populations for example show cold adaptation in their cranial-form or bodies, and the "Caucasoid" geographical belt of old race books included too diverse environments. If you want to study climatic adaptation, you should instead look at more localized populations.

    Siberians are cold-adapted. But it is an error to call them "Mongoloid" because most other "Mongoloid" populations (again of old race books) are not adapted to low temperatures, i.e. Southeast Asians, southern Chinese, even Japanese, are not cold-adapted. Not even all northern Chinese are either.
    Mongoids are social constructs. Remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermixedguy View Post
    I understand that not all mongolid populations are cold adapted im taking about the ones living in cold weather and have adapted to it that originally were mongolid stock and the question was basically why they adapt differently when selected for cold weather and the same with blacks and hot weather
    It is natural selection induced by climate/eco-geographical variables (e.g. temperature, humidity). Look up Bergmann's and Allen's rules for adaptive thermal regulation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen's_rule
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann's_rule

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    is climate adaptation in caucasians oppisite to other races? I mean the most cold adapted humans are mongolids from the north pole theyre short and bulky while cold adapted caucasians such as nordics are tall and slender and the most heat adapted are west africans they are generally tall and slender while heat adapted caucasians are short and more on the mosemorphic side in terms of body type why is it the total oppisite to negroids and mongolids ?
    Europe has one of the largest oceanic ecosystem in the world and this is what gives Europe a very mild climate for it's northern latitude compared to the rest of the world.

    I think this is the biggest difference in climate adaptation from the rest of the world.

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