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    Jews and Muslims hold hands as they join in a ring of solidarity around the synagogue in Oslo, in a peace vigil that drew a crowd of 1,300 people.


    Norwegian Muslims organised a peace vigil in Oslo on Saturday in a show of solidarity with Jews a week after fatal shootings in Denmark targeted a synagogue and free-speech seminar. As the mainly elderly Jewish congregation filed out of the synagogue after Shabbat prayers, a group of young Muslims, many of them teenage girls wearing headscarves, formed a symbolic ring outside the building to applause from a crowd of more than 1,000 people.

    “This shows that there are many more peacemakers than warmakers,” 37-year-old Zeeshan Abdullah, one of the organisers, told the crowd. “There is still hope for humanity, for peace and love across religious differences and background,” he added, before a traditional Shabbat ceremony was held in the open air with many demonstrators adding their voices to the Hebrew chants.

    Norway’s chief rabbi, Michael Melchior, appeared visibly moved when he said it was the first time the ceremony had taken place outdoors with so many people. Ervin Kohn, a Jewish community leader, said: “It is unique that Muslims stand to this degree against antisemitism and that fills us with hope … particularly as it’s a grassroots movement of young Muslims,” adding that the rest of the world should “look to Norway”.

    Kohn said: “Working against fear alone is difficult and it is good that we are so many here together.” There was a heavy police presence at the event and sharpshooters were placed on surrounding buildings but no incidents were reported. “It has been calm as we expected. We had no reason to expect any trouble but we were prepared,” said police superintendent Steiner Hausvik.

    Several Muslim speakers said that Islam was a religion of peace and that it had nothing to do with terrorism – despite what they said was unfair reporting in certain Nordic media which portrayed Muslims as a problem. The initiative by Norway’s Muslim youth to link arms with Norwegian Jews in a circle around Oslo’s synagogue was an effort to denounce recent violence by jihadis against Jewish communities in France and Denmark.

    Impetus for the vigil came from some young people among Norway’s Muslims, who make up roughly 3% of the nation’s 5.3 million population. They wanted to demonstrate support for the country’s estimated 1,300 Jews, following one of the attacks in Copenhagen last weekend that killed a 37-year-old volunteer security guard outside the city’s synagogue.

    The gunman, named by police as 22-year-old Omar el-Hussein – a Dane of Palestinian origin – was reportedly radicalised by Islamists during a two-year jail term. Youssef Bartho Assidiq, a Muslim youth leader, said the Oslo event showed that Muslims “stand up for freedom of speech, stand up for freedom of religion and stand up for each other”.

    “This is the best possible response we can give to the polarisation we’ve seen in debates after the attacks in France and Denmark,” he said, referring also to the killings last month targeting Jews at a kosher supermarket in Paris. A Norwegian Islamist was convicted in 2008 for a shooting attack on Oslo’s synagogue two years earlier which damaged the building but claimed no casualties. In 2011, extreme-right mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik shocked Norway by going on a killing spree that left 77 people dead.



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    Both groups of people ought to be deported from Norway as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmwalkure View Post
    Both groups of people ought to be deported from Norway as soon as possible.
    They're doing something good can't you just be happy for them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmwalkure View Post
    Both groups of people ought to be deported from Norway as soon as possible.
    That's not possible since most of them are citizens of Norway. And most (if not all) of the Jews in Norway are Norwegian by birth.

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    Laws can be changed; people who do not belong in Norway can be made illegal with a stroke of a pen. I am sick of idiots fawning over this "solidarity" between two groups alien to Norway. Citizenship means nothing when they are not even indigenous to Norway. I do not care about these peoples "rights" or passports. Sod them all. I hope in due course the actual Norwegian people unite against these fiendish parasites and give them a send-away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmwalkure View Post
    Laws can be changed; people who do not belong in Norway can be made illegal with a stroke of a pen. I am sick of idiots fawning over this "solidarity" between two groups alien to Norway. Citizenship means nothing when they are not even indigenous to Norway. I do not care about these peoples "rights" or passports. Sod them all. I hope in due course the actual Norwegian people unite against these fiendish parasites and give them a send-away.
    Norway's a bunch of lefties. I lived with a Norwegian family for a month. It's not gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmwalkure View Post
    Laws can be changed; people who do not belong in Norway can be made illegal with a stroke of a pen. I am sick of idiots fawning over this "solidarity" between two groups alien to Norway. Citizenship means nothing when they are not even indigenous to Norway. I do not care about these peoples "rights" or passports. Sod them all. I hope in due course the actual Norwegian people unite against these fiendish parasites and give them a send-away.
    Yeah, I'm aware of that. But laws are usually made to represent the opinions of the general population. Let's take a look at some information collected by the Norwegian statistics bureau:

    Attitudes towards immigrants and receiving refugees. Per cent (Source)

    2005
    2013
    2014
    Most immigrants make an important contribution to Norwegian working life
    Strongly agree
    24
    29
    32
    Agree on the whole
    45
    43
    45
    Disagree on the whole
    13
    10
    9
    Strongly disagree
    5
    4
    3
    Most immigrants enrich the cultural life in Norway
    Strongly agree
    36
    32
    36
    Agree on the whole
    35
    37
    33
    Disagree on the whole
    11
    13
    13
    Strongly disagree
    8
    4
    5
    Most immigrants are a cause of insecurity in society
    Strongly agree
    13
    11
    9
    Agree on the whole
    27
    24
    19
    Disagree on the whole
    26
    30
    31
    Strongly disagree
    23
    22
    29
    Attitudes towards refugees' and asylum seekers' access to residence permits in Norway. Compared to today, should it be easier, more difficult or remain the same as today?
    Easier
    9
    7
    18
    As today
    49
    47
    50
    More difficult
    39
    42
    28

    So it looks as though Norwegians are more accepting and welcoming of immigrants rather than wanting to deport them. And this is just immigrants, not ethnic groups that have lived in Norway for hundreds of years like the Jews. So even though you believe that both Jews and Muslims (who aren't an ethnic group btw) should be deported, your views don't match with the views of the general population of Norway. And all I'm trying to say is that it is not likely that Norway will deport Jews and Muslims, which is what the statistics and laws already say.

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    ^^ It doesn't help that Norwegians have been brainwashed into tolerance and Liberalism. It's a shame since a lot of people if allowed to truly speak their minds would actually oppose the immigrants living there but so many people are afraid of losing their careers and being jailed for criticizing immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmwalkure View Post
    ^^ It doesn't help that Norwegians have been brainwashed into tolerance and Liberalism. It's a shame since a lot of people if allowed to truly speak their minds would actually oppose the immigrants living there but so many people are afraid of losing their careers and being jailed for criticizing immigration.
    If you click on the source it gives you details about the survey. In the 'confidentiality' section it states that 'Nothing is ever published that makes it possible to detect the identity of the respondents.' So they are free to give any of those answers without the fear of being persecuted.

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