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    Is north indian and espicially punjabi culture heavily influenced by middle eastern culture? Im asking because of shared turbans , belly dancing and even releigon since punjabis mostly muslim and sikh and sikhism is originally a mixture of islam and hinduisim and also if anybody watches bollywood movies will notice that the language they speak have arabic words
    add to all that they kind look similar
    and the music too I mean in the us you cant differentate between the two cultures
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    only effinity is there with Pakistani Punjab .. indian Punjabis are different

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    The Middle East is very broad, so there is no universal Middle Eastern culture, similar to how there's no universal East Asian, European, South Asian, etc culture. Anyways, I'm sure there are some Iranic influences in punjabi culture, but there is a clear difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomguy1235 View Post
    The Middle East is very broad, so there is no universal Middle Eastern culture, similar to how there's no universal East Asian, European, South Asian, etc culture. Anyways, I'm sure there are some Iranic influences in punjabi culture, but there is a clear difference between the two.
    True, Technically, the Middle east can be disected into 3 or 4 sections.

    Gulf Region

    Iraq + Sham (Levantine) + (Maybe egypt)

    And Maghreeb Al-Arabi (North Africa)
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermixedguy View Post
    Is north indian and espicially punjabi culture heavily influenced by middle eastern culture? Im asking because of shared turbans , belly dancing and even releigon since punjabis mostly muslim and sikh and sikhism is originally a mixture of islam and hinduisim
    In the book "A Year Amongst the Persians" by Edward Granville Brown there is a Persian Sufi order with members wearing turbans, long hair and beards, daggers, and iron bracelets. The similarity to the Sikhs is obvious. The Islamic influence on the Sikhs is Sufi mysticism and aesthetics only. The extreme Northwest of the Indian subcontinent has always been open to Iranic influences since ancient times. This predates the advent of Islam brought by Turkics and later Persians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar View Post
    True, Technically, the Middle east can be disected into 3 or 4 sections.

    Gulf Region

    Iraq + Sham (Levantine) + (Maybe egypt)

    And Maghreeb Al-Arabi (North Africa)
    I agree, although it'd be more like:

    - Egypt

    - Northwest Africa/Maghreb

    - Shaam + North Iraq

    - East Jordan + West Iraq

    - Gulf region

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    Indian punjabi culture is just like hindus. See this video for Indian punjab culture



    Pak punjabi culture is different, our language also different and more refined thanks to great poets like Waris Shah.



    pure/standard punjabi speech in Pak masjid


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    Quote Originally Posted by gum_dum View Post
    Indian punjabi culture is just like hindus. See this video for Indian punjab culture

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKO80PskcKI

    Pak punjabi culture is different, our language also different and more refined thanks to great poets like Waris Shah.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85meH4C4fLY
    I am curious about something. Do Punjabi people belong to clans and tribes? How is Punjabi society organized traditionally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Wolf View Post
    I am curious about something. Do Punjabi people belong to clans and tribes? How is Punjabi society organized traditionally?
    Now Pak punjab after partition is more diverse thanks to migrants from India in to Pak punjab cities. But overall society in rural areas are like this

    Zamindars/landholders: gujjars, rajputs, jats, awans, arains, dogar etc
    trading biraderi: sheikh, khoja etc
    artisans castes: tarkhans etc
    menial castes: dalits, mussalis, machis etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by gum_dum View Post
    Now Pak punjab after partition is more diverse thanks to migrants from India in to Pak punjab cities. But overall society in rural areas are like this

    Zamindars/landholders: gujjars, rajputs, jats, awans, arains, dogar etc
    trading biraderi: sheikh, khoja etc
    artisans castes: tarkhans etc
    menial castes: dalits, mussalis, machis etc
    Ahh I see castes. Okay thank you.

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