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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerban View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Kramskoï View Post
    My eyes.
    Your eyes are not a study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerban View Post
    Your eyes are not a study.
    I know France betterthan you.
    Also considering that 1/3 of all births in France is due to non European people and considering the higher fertility rate in those populations and the fact that they are younger we can establisg a euro pop in Francee of aout 80 %.

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    French people are mostly Northern Europeans (core modern Europeans) with a slight Near Eastern shift. Basque people on the french side are surprisingly more European (WHG) than French people because the latter are more ANE-admixed through Yamnaya (IE speakers) influx in the bronze age.

    Based on my observations, a big part of central and southwestern French are in an intermediate position between Basque and the rest of French people. Southeasternmost French from the Rhodanian region are only slightly more Near Eastern-shifted and as ANE-admixed. The northern part of the country is more blurry because there are no natural frontiers, although the Rhine river could have played this role before Germanic invasions ("wandering" according to Germans ) because Western Germans and Southern Dutch are intermediate between French people and their respective nationality.

    Some French people might have very distant North African ancestry (medieval), but it's always very minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    So, the French (minus recent immigrants from North Africa, Middle East, also minus descendants of other European immigrants)....who contributed most to their genetics? Germanic Franks, for which France gets it's name...or do they have more Gaulish blood? Which nationality are the French most closest related to genetically?
    To answer this question, it is necessary to detail by region, otherwise it makes no sense:
    The Channel coast: nearest British, Other North-French, closer to the Belgiam, South Germans, Swiss, eventualy Central Europe
    Southwest, most Basque or Iberian.
    Southeast: unknown, no genetic autosomal study has investigated the Southeast French!

    Culturally, first Celtic (Gaulish), Aquitain (South-Ouest) and Roman later.
    The Francque influence is limited, a few words are going into the French language, but still mainly of Latin origin.

    On the other hand, family names are mostly German origin. Indeed, these names come from the time when the German names was fashionable (X-XII century).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Kramskoï View Post
    I know France betterthan you.
    Also considering that 1/3 of all births in France is due to non European people and considering the higher fertility rate in those populations and the fact that they are younger we can establisg a euro pop in Francee of aout 80 %.
    Arrête de raconter tes conneries et ramène moi.une source fiable 80% lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaston View Post
    French people are mostly Northern Europeans (core modern Europeans) with a slight Near Eastern shift. Basque people on the french side are surprisingly more European (WHG) than French people because the latter are more ANE-admixed through Yamnaya (IE speakers) influx in the bronze age.

    Based on my observations, a big part of central and southwestern French are in an intermediate position between Basque and the rest of French people. Southeasternmost French from the Rhodanian region are only slightly more Near Eastern-shifted and as ANE-admixed. The northern part of the country is more blurry because there are no natural frontiers, although the Rhine river could have played this role before Germanic invasions ("wandering" according to Germans ) because Western Germans and Southern Dutch are intermediate between French people and their respective nationality.

    Some French people might have very distant North African ancestry (medieval), but it's always very minor.
    Do you have regionalised K8 averages for French people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerban View Post
    Arrête de raconter tes conneries et ramène moi.une source fiable 80% lol.
    Les statistics raciales sont interdites en France, il est impossible pour lui de fournir une source fiable.

    Quels sont tes estimations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    Les statistics raciales sont interdites en France, il est impossible pour lui de fournir une source fiable.

    Quels sont tes estimations?
    1/3 de nouveaux nés d'origine non française reste imprévisible, 1/8 ou 1/9 c'est plus probable, je dirais un bon 80% est français d'origine française, 10% d'origine européenne, italienne, portugaise, espagnole, polonaise... Et le reste est mélangé entre Maghreb, Asie, Afrique...
    Juste pour info je viens de Paris et dans ma zone, c'est moins étranger de ce que l'on cherche à nous faire croire.

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