Opinions on Multiculturalism

[Hamlet]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be insinuating that Europe's various cultural traditions will just vanish completely. As long as Europeans and their countries exist, I seriously doubt that will ever happen.

Not quite - I'm saying the borders would be blurred - as in, to some extent, cultures will merge. of course, there will not be one borderless pan-European all-encompassing culture

[Hamlet]

What does it matter? As long as they identify as one of you and adopt their culture from you, then they are still heirs to your country's legacy. Ethnogenesis is changing constantly, every ethnicity on this planet is a result of mixing, at a certain point, our own descendants will have very little of our blood flowing through their veins, all that really matters at that point is whether or not they carry on our legacies, not our bloodlines. As history has proven, purity is unachievable, and the best we can hope for is for our descendants to carry on our legacies.

Firstly, it has nothing to do with purity and, at least in itself, genetics. I just would feel uncomfortable if the ENTIRE ethnic background of a country switched, as these people are not approximate descendants of the people who actually founded and raised the country (I understand this links in to genetics, but if somebody has haplogroup J in Britain and has ancestry in Britain, I wouldn't care.) It's not about racial consistency, it's just that I feel just as cultures should have distinct borders as a whole, so should races. Would it just feel, well, wrong, if in, say, 200 years time, 95% of China's population was African? There is some sense of heritage that must be conserved.

[Hamlet]

In your opinion, would a french or a spaniard community in the UK be a threat to british/english culture?

Depends if they assimilate. Sort of in relation to your point, I would rather that, in 200 years, 95% of the British population was Spanish, than, say, South Asian. IMO the majority of the population of a country should relate to its recent ancestral heritage, for example, the British population should be of mainly British ancestry, as these people have some claim to the founders and raisers of mighty Britain.

[Hamlet]

Its not the case anywhere in europe, except for the former USSR states, today it has become more clear than ever, that forced multiculturalism/multiracialism is a tool for the racial and cultural anihilation of the nation in which it is practiced.

I don't think that is the main motivation behind multiculturalism. I suggest visiting Stormfront, if you really believe that.

[N1019]

Multiculturalism can be used to divide and conquer the masses by encouraging people to focus on and celebrate superficial differences rather than what they have in common. It all plays into the hands of the ruling class. A strong, united citizenry is not in their interests. They'd rather see people at each other's throats. Drawing extra lines between people by identifying them as some foreign nationality instead of encouraging assimilation helps that process. In some cases multicultural support programmes are also a means of appealing to immigrant minorities to score votes. It can be a form of cultural Marxism that distorts reality and sometimes solves one problem while causing another.

There's nothing inherently wrong with remembering one's family heritage but multicultural policies in Europe and Australia go well beyond that. It is not the responsibility of the State to preserve the foreign cultures of immigrants at the expense of national identity and assimilation. In Australia it has even led to unrealistic notions of "who built the country". National identity here is a mess.

[TheBlondeSalad]

Bad in theory, bad in practice. Has never worked anywhere, will never work anywhere (at least in Europe).

People feel most comfortable when surrounded by people with a similar background; - multiculturalism in practice pretty much always deteriorates into voluntary segregation along racial/cultural grounds, combined with the breakdown of community, increased alienation, et similia.

[Neon Knight]

I accept, and even welcome, major cities having multicutural elements - it has been that way for centuries. But when it spreads to many towns and damages the local character then I am against it. For the racial preservationist, the problem with immigrants assimilating is that they are then more likely to mix reproductively. Once they are here there is not much that can be done to suppress their culture - it is just not practical to police it. Although the more obvious expressions can be banned like the Muslim dress codes and mosque towers (such as in France and Switzerland).

Also, there is a conflict between traditional culture and modernism/commercialism e.g. the spread of supermarkets, car culture and rude behaviour due to mobile phone use. So it is not all due to immigrantion.

[Abeja]

Bad in theory, bad in practice. Has never worked anywhere, will never work anywhere (at least in Europe).

People feel most comfortable when surrounded by people with a similar background; - multiculturalism in practice pretty much always deteriorates into voluntary segregation along racial/cultural grounds, combined with the breakdown of community, increased alienation, et similia.

Oh my God this is a miracle! It is really you behind this post?

[LightHouse89]

I believe everything is a social construct so it should matter. Diversity even though it probably doesn't work will find a way of working at some point.

Even if the end result is like the Balkan wars. Someone will be the winner!

[LightHouse89]

I accept, and even welcome, major cities having multicutural elements - it has been that way for centuries. But when it spreads to many towns and damages the local character then I am against it. For the racial preservationist, the problem with immigrants assimilating is that they are then more likely to mix reproductively. Once they are here there is not much that can be done to suppress their culture - it is just not practical to police it. Although the more obvious expressions can be banned like the Muslim dress codes and mosque towers (such as in France and Switzerland).

Also, there is a conflict between traditional culture and modernism/commercialism e.g. the spread of supermarkets, car culture and rude behaviour due to mobile phone use. So it is not all due to immigrantion.

Well here when group X becomes too big in a major urban center, group Y and Z tend to pack things and leave.

Cultures disappear either way just like religion does. Christianity is basically useless in todays world. Islam might take over regions of Europe and maybe regions of north America [ofcourse at the expense of a lot of blood shed I think]. But nothing will stay the same in Europe or elsewhere. Europe is going through a transformation as is North America. Is it good or bad? Who knows. I don't believe it will be bad even if violence erupts.

I have sort of become nihilistic with the concept of good and evil. Much of this global change is due to business which is important for democracy to work so its a necessity in order to have democracy. Otherwise society would be more like china. More restrictive in terms of the government and whats accepted culturally.

In Europe 100 year ago we didn't have homosexuals or transsexuals. Now they are everywhere. So gender and sexual preference have been discovered to be just social constructs because through genetics people are born that way [this is what biologists here claim so you cannot question it].

Local cultures will disappear and change. They might even be replaced. My local culture or the one in my area was mostly irish immigrant culture. Today its entirely gone. Its latino culture and other foreign cultures. It will probably be Islamic culture in the next decade? who knows.