View Poll Results: Which Haplogroups Are Aryan?

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  • J2

    16 14.81%
  • G2a

    8 7.41%
  • E1b1b

    17 15.74%
  • R1b

    50 46.30%
  • R1a

    68 62.96%
  • I

    28 25.93%
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    I think any haplogroup brought in by Corded Ware or Western Hunter Gatherers should be considered Aryan, so R1a, R1b, and I1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegtamr View Post
    I think any haplogroup brought in by Corded Ware or Western Hunter Gatherers should be considered Aryan, so R1a, R1b, and I1
    And I2

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    The Aryans of the Upper Mesopotamia who found Medo-Persian empires were related to the Aryan Guto-Medes and were mostly of Y-DNA hg. J2a, J1, G2a, T, L, R1b and maybe some ancient R2a and R1a. Notice that the Aryan Guto-Medes Y-DNA was hg. R1b-Z2103, which was a very different lineage from CWC. CWC belonged to a different Y-DNA hg. R1b lineage and was most likely 'Indo-Europeanized' by Yamnaya through elite dominance. Also hg. R1a in CWC was very different from the Aryan lineages of hg. R1a
    Last edited by Guti; 08-05-2022 at 11:29 PM.

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    Y-DNA distribution among modern NorthernWest Iranic aka UPPER Mesopotamian Aryan people.





    Proto-Upper Mesopotamian Aryans were predominately J2a, G2a, R1b and L with some minor haplogroups such as J1, E1b1, T, R2a and R1a.

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    R1a1-Z93 can never be derived from a Corded Ware culture because CWC belonged to different Y-DNA hg. R1a haplogroup. It is actually R1a1-Z282 that has been associated with the CWC. Long after the split from R-M420.

    CWC was only from 2900BC. The split of R1a-M417 took place during the Maykop (Yamnaya) period and therefore BEFORE CWC. At least 1000 years before CWC, lol. R-Z93 existed already even before CWC was born.


    Also, Aryans in the Upper Mesopotamia were not R1a1-Z93, but R1a1-Z94 and younger and it was not the only R1a linage in them. Other lineages were most likely derived from Y-DNA hg. R1a2, like my own.
    Last edited by Guti; 08-05-2022 at 11:47 PM.

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    By the way, I am an Aryan and my paternal Y-DNA lineage is hg. R1a2. It means that the ancient Aryans, my direct Aryan ancestors belonged at least to Y-DNA hg. R1a2. We can be almost certain about that.

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    E1b1 is the aryanest of all aryans

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