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    Default King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y Chromosomes

    Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.



    The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.
    Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.
    On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.
    Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).
    STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.
    These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:

    DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 385a – 11
    DYS 385b – 14
    DYS 389i – 13
    DYS 389ii – 30
    DYS 390 – 24
    DYS 391 – 11
    DYS 392 – 13
    DYS 393 – 13
    DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
    DYS 438 – 12
    DYS 439 – 10
    DYS 448 – 19
    DYS 456 – 15
    DYS 458 – 16
    DYS 635 – 23
    YGATAH4 – 11

    What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.
    Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.

    He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.
    For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.
    Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.
    Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.
    Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.

    By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.
    The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.



    So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all…
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    It just proves what was likely, that he comes from an Europid paternal line. R1b is still quite common in Africa too actually, because of an expansion with Afro-Asiatic speakers most likely - deep into Central Africa with Chadic speakers.

    So a more exact result and autosomal DNA would be great.

    But I still ask myself why it is possible that the Egyptians really kept back the data of such a case? That would be a problematic case for science and truth obviously, though we know similar cases from various parts of the world - Ameindians, Chinese etc., often because of pseudoreligious and ideological reasons or simply to block a revelation.

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    A single glance at his face/skull tells me this fellow must have had quite a Ethiopid looks.

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    Great
    I really hate Afrocentrics, trying to steal other peoples history.

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    The dude was freaky looking...






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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    It just proves what was likely, that he comes from an Europid paternal line. R1b is still quite common in Africa too actually, because of an expansion with Afro-Asiatic speakers most likely - deep into Central Africa with Chadic speakers.
    No, because his subclade of R1b is western european. The african R1b is a different branch (V-88) than the european one (M269)

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    arR1ba!!!!!!!!



    I knew it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    No, because his subclade of R1b is western european. The african R1b is a different branch (V-88) than the european one (M269)
    I know, but can you say from those markers that it's the European one and not R1b1a (R-V88)?

    On the internet most sources say its R1b1a which would make it Europid, but of the North African, most likely Afro-Asiatic kind.

    Also some Europid North Africans have the European marker too and we don't know for sure when it entered Africa, though I would consider (later!) Levantine traders, Indoeuropeans, Greeks and Romans primarily.

    R1b1b2 (R-M269) is at least not absent from North Africa today:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogr..._(Y-DNA)#R1b1a

    2-3 percent in Egypt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    I know, but can you say from those markers that it's the European one and not R1b1a (R-V88)?

    On the internet most sources say its R1b1a which would make it Europid, but of the North African, most likely Afro-Asiatic kind.

    Also some Europid North Africans have the European marker too and we don't know for sure when it entered Africa, though I would consider (later!) Levantine traders, Indoeuropeans, Greeks and Romans primarily.

    R1b1b2 (R-M269) is at least not absent from North Africa today:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogr..._(Y-DNA)#R1b1a

    2-3 percent in Egypt!
    The M269 in North Africa is without a doubt from european invasions, though it is minimal (1-2%). The 2-3% in Egypt is definately from the roman and greek colonization, which was large in the north of Egypt

    Vandals, greeks, romans, expelled Iberians, indo.europeans,etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    No, because his subclade of R1b is western european. The african R1b is a different branch (V-88) than the european one (M269)
    M269 is also found in Bashkirs, so it's not only Western European, but it's correct that M269 is not present in Africa.

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