Spanish and Portuguese 23andme results!

**Ibericus** · 08-11-2017, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by vivna

Here Eurogenes k15, with Oracle 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 31.49
2 West_Med 21.66
3 East_Med 14.83
4 North_Sea 11.63
5 Baltic 6.83
6 Eastern_Euro 5.52
7 Red_Sea 2.67
8 West_Asian 2.42
9 Northeast_African 1.44

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.507310
2 Spanish_Valencia @ 7.593336
3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.108563
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 9.592994
5 Spanish_Aragon @ 10.151337
6 Spanish_Extremadura @ 10.328300
7 North_Italian @ 11.008951
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 11.137277
9 Southwest_French @ 11.632013
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 11.724068
11 Spanish_Cantabria @ 12.072547
12 Portuguese @ 12.275578
13 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.835445
14 Tuscan @ 15.720756
15 French_Basque @ 19.964657
16 West_Sicilian @ 20.469288
17 French @ 20.486118
18 Greek @ 22.203329
19 Bulgarian @ 22.525871
20 Italian_Abruzzo @ 22.680738

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% West_Sicilian @ 5.044471

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Greek +25% West_Sicilian @ 4.687199

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 French_Basque + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.502778
2 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.523883
3 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.564276
4 French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.599850
5 French_Basque + French_Basque + Greek + West_Sicilian @ 4.687199
6 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 4.720689
7 French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.741263
8 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.759644
9 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.790311
10 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.875587
11 French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.894887
12 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + French_Basque + Serbian @ 4.897386
13 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.923297
14 French_Basque + Sephardic_Jewish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.938210
15 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.952503
16 French_Basque + Sephardic_Jewish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.960447
17 French_Basque + French_Basque + Greek + Tunisian @ 5.004022
18 French_Basque + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.011019
19 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + French_Basque + Greek @ 5.013166
20 Algerian_Jewish + French_Basque + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.014821

Edit : Puede mostrar el teste Eurogenes EUTtest ? Gracias, es para ponerte en una mapa genético..

**vivna** · 08-11-2017, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ibericus

Edit : Puede mostrar el teste Eurogenes EUTtest ? Gracias, es para ponerte en una mapa genético..

Por supuesto, muchas gracias Ibericus por tu ayuda

. He aquí los resultado del EUtest

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 26.78
2 WEST_MED 22.64
3 EAST_MED 17.12
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.52
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.49
6 EAST_EURO 5.39
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.22
8 WEST_AFRICAN 1.06

Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 ES @ 7.612559
2 PT @ 8.448138
3 North_Italian @ 10.046824
4 FR @ 14.357957
5 Tuscan @ 15.043344
6 French_Basque @ 21.060717
7 RO @ 21.476593
8 AT @ 21.509905
9 Serbian @ 22.447548
10 Cornish @ 23.566214
11 West_&_Central_German @ 24.234129
12 HU @ 24.666519
13 NL @ 24.845589
14 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 25.391172
15 English @ 25.424448
16 AJ @ 26.409637
17 Orcadian @ 26.894009
18 IE @ 27.072975
19 Scottish @ 27.700417
20 GR @ 28.449697

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ES +50% North_Italian @ 6.714446

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ES +25% French_Basque +25% GR @ 5.417702

Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 ES + ES + French_Basque + GR @ 5.417702
2 ES + French_Basque + GR + PT @ 5.570623
3 ES + ES + French_Basque + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.791118
4 AJ + ES + ES + French_Basque @ 5.818461
5 French_Basque + GR + PT + PT @ 5.874026
6 ES + French_Basque + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.885161
7 AJ + ES + French_Basque + PT @ 6.025478
8 French_Basque + PT + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.129259
9 AJ + ES + French_Basque + North_Italian @ 6.144611
10 ES + French_Basque + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.162360
11 AT + French_Basque + French_Basque + Samaritan @ 6.312288
12 FR + French_Basque + French_Basque + Samaritan @ 6.315598
13 AJ + French_Basque + PT + PT @ 6.357170
14 Druze + ES + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 6.376817
15 ES + French_Basque + GR + North_Italian @ 6.397699
16 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + PT @ 6.424963
17 French_Basque + North_Italian + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.484391
18 Druze + FR + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 6.519203
19 French_Basque + French_Basque + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.525895
20 ES + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 6.548202

**Ibericus** · 08-11-2017, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by vivna

Por supuesto, muchas gracias Ibericus por tu ayuda

. He aquí los resultado del EUtest

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 26.78
2 WEST_MED 22.64
3 EAST_MED 17.12
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 13.52
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 7.49
6 EAST_EURO 5.39
7 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.22
8 WEST_AFRICAN 1.06

Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 ES @ 7.612559
2 PT @ 8.448138
3 North_Italian @ 10.046824
4 FR @ 14.357957
5 Tuscan @ 15.043344
6 French_Basque @ 21.060717
7 RO @ 21.476593
8 AT @ 21.509905
9 Serbian @ 22.447548
10 Cornish @ 23.566214
11 West_&_Central_German @ 24.234129
12 HU @ 24.666519
13 NL @ 24.845589
14 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 25.391172
15 English @ 25.424448
16 AJ @ 26.409637
17 Orcadian @ 26.894009
18 IE @ 27.072975
19 Scottish @ 27.700417
20 GR @ 28.449697

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ES +50% North_Italian @ 6.714446

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ES +25% French_Basque +25% GR @ 5.417702

Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 ES + ES + French_Basque + GR @ 5.417702
2 ES + French_Basque + GR + PT @ 5.570623
3 ES + ES + French_Basque + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.791118
4 AJ + ES + ES + French_Basque @ 5.818461
5 French_Basque + GR + PT + PT @ 5.874026
6 ES + French_Basque + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.885161
7 AJ + ES + French_Basque + PT @ 6.025478
8 French_Basque + PT + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.129259
9 AJ + ES + French_Basque + North_Italian @ 6.144611
10 ES + French_Basque + North_Italian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.162360
11 AT + French_Basque + French_Basque + Samaritan @ 6.312288
12 FR + French_Basque + French_Basque + Samaritan @ 6.315598
13 AJ + French_Basque + PT + PT @ 6.357170
14 Druze + ES + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 6.376817
15 ES + French_Basque + GR + North_Italian @ 6.397699
16 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + PT @ 6.424963
17 French_Basque + North_Italian + PT + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.484391
18 Druze + FR + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 6.519203
19 French_Basque + French_Basque + RO + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.525895
20 ES + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 6.548202

Aqui estas en el mapa genetico, te desvias algo de la media española, seguramente debido a tu alto East-Med :

**vivna** · 08-11-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ibericus

Aqui estas en el mapa genetico, te desvias algo de la media española, seguramente debido a tu alto East-Med :

Muchas gracias Ibericus por el esfuerzo! es muy muy interesante, East Med, ¿hace referencia a "Mediterraneo Oriental?

**Longbowman** · 08-12-2017, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by vivna

Any idea of the meaning of my 7,93% Near eastern at Eurogenes k36?

I would have to know what the population averages are for various peoples, but, K36 can give odd results, and 7.93% is 75% of the score a full Sephardi or Ashkenazi would get.

**vivna** · 08-12-2017, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

I would have to know what the population averages are for various peoples, but, K36 can give odd results, and 7.93% is 75% of the score a full Sephardi or Ashkenazi would get.

Yes, its odd,cause im not fully Sephardi that for sure jaja. Which one would be the most reliable test at Gedmatch in your opinion, for iberians?.

**~~TEUTORIGOS~~** · 08-12-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by vivna

Yes, its odd,cause im not fully Sephardi that for sure jaja. Which one would be the most reliable test at Gedmatch in your opinion, for iberians?.

I know you did not ask me but probably one of the Dodecad calculators. I am not promising it is going to be perfect, as this is still and inexact science, but Dodecad seems better for southern Europeans than most or all the other calculators. This probably because Dienekes is Greek and biased towards Southern Europeans. He is kind of like med-centric or whanot. However, in reality all these calculators are flawed in some kind of way and depending on your ancestry it is idiosyncratic in which one will be best for you.

**Longbowman** · 08-12-2017, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by vivna

Yes, its odd,cause im not fully Sephardi that for sure jaja. Which one would be the most reliable test at Gedmatch in your opinion, for iberians?.

The newer ones are better IMO. Gedrosia K10 etc.

**vivna** · 08-12-2017, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

The newer ones are better IMO. Gedrosia K10 etc.

Thanks Longbowman, ill try it, anyway do you know if there is a way or how i could trace any kind of Sephardic anthestry through my dna, my mothers family would be interested to know that.

**Ibericus** · 08-12-2017, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by vivna

Thanks Longbowman, ill try it, anyway do you know if there is a way or how i could trace any kind of Sephardic anthestry through my dna, my mothers family would be interested to know that.

I don't think you have sephardic at all, it's very rare actually, and if you had, it would be very diluded, not noticeable in any way.