Kven people and Forest Finns

[Pallantides]

Kven People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kven_people
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Forest Finns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns

Today the Forest Finns are fully assimilated into the Norwegian and Swedish societies and their language extinct, but their culture lives on in both countries and a number of place names commemorates the Finnish origin. They are defined as a national minority in Norway, and it is estimated that a couple of hundred thousand Norwegians are descendants of the original Forest Finns.
Forest Finns are a distinct group from Kven people, who live in the Northern Norwegian counties of Troms and Finnmark, although they both originate from Finland.

[Pallantides]

Forest Finn from Røgden, Grue in Finnskogen




Henrik 'Heiki' Kublik "last" of the Forest Finns

[Aramis]

It's the Kven Osweo!

[Treffie]

It's the Kven Osweo!

Standing next to Claudia Schiffer?

[Eldritch]

Yo Pallsy, any data on how tall these people are/were in general?

[Pallantides]

I don't have any data on Kven height.



There was one Johan Peder Ossiansen and his wife Susanna Johannesdatter, who were said to be exceptionally large and strong, when they were travelling to Norway they were attacked by a group of Russian bandits, the couple fought the bandits and killed many of them, the woman more than the man.

[Michaela]

My son had my DNA tested at 23andMe. I was surprised at the haploid group just plain H. They said Scandinavian with blue eyes, which was no surprise. I had heard old stories from ancestors, all dead now, and there was some genealogy recorded, and a university contacted my mother's sister's daughter and her daughter for DNA samples, but I didn't know what the fuss was about. I'm fairly shy so I don't talk much.

I did look up the Forest Finns, then found both parents had ancestors from the same boat. When I looked up celebrating Santa Lucia day celebrations in the area where they had first settled, I saw a picture of a girl that looked like I did at that age.

Looking at the pictures on this site makes me happy. The Forest Finn and the laughing woman look familiar. Researching the culture is also familiar as I may have been the last to be taught some of these things, just never told the specific names because we have been in the Americas since the 17th century, except for 2 who arrived in the 19th century. My mother-in-law (Finnish) said it was old, and my mother and grandmothers were too busy, but I had grandfathers and an old Norwegian man whom I sort of adopted as a grandfather, who liked to tell stories. I have read Tolkein books, and started on the Kalevala several times (think it must be better with a drum background and in the original language).

I have been reading everything I can on the Forest Finns, while trying to find out why each ancestor decided to migrate to the Americas. I am not just Forest Finn, and all were people I think that I would like. I think I would like the people who write for this site as well.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

I don't have any data on Kven height.



There was one Johan Peder Ossiansen and his wife Susanna Johannesdatter, who were said to be exceptionally large and strong, when they were travelling to Norway they were attacked by a group of Russian bandits, the couple fought the bandits and killed many of them, the woman more than the man.

Finns allright...

[Motörhead Remember Me]

I have been reading everything I can on the Forest Finns, while trying to find out why each ancestor decided to migrate to the Americas. I am not just Forest Finn, and all were people I think that I would like. I think I would like the people who write for this site as well.

As for the Forest Finns, the Swedish government first invited the Finns to settle in and colonialize vast land areas in Sweden to make it easier to claim previously uninhabited territory to the Swedish crown. When copper and iron ore was discovered in those lands the crown simply confiscated the lands from the colonialists and many of them had simply no other choice than to work in the emerging mining industry. When Sweden acquired New Delaware, the Finnish colonialists were eager to get there as a result from having their Swedish lands confiscated.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Yo Pallsy, any data on how tall these people are/were in general?

As they were mostly eastern Finns (Savolaxians), it's reasonable to assume that their average height was a tad shorter than western Finns. Again, it's about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. The intake of dairy and wheat was lower than among western Finns who cultivated more fertile lands, where as the eastern Finns cultivated rye in not so fertile pine forrests and (I assume) were quite dependent on game and freshwater fish in addition to living harsher lifes in the perifery.