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Thread: Is Balkan mentality closer to that of other Europeans, the Near East or a combination of the two?

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    I wonder how much "European" would a Bronze Age Mycenaean sample submitted to 23andMe score in their algorithm? Or a Minoan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    You say a (antique) Greek from today Greece is European.
    Greek Islanders are still very similar to ancient Greeks, as well as to South Italians (because South Italians are also largely descended from ancient Greeks).

    Modern Mainland Greeks are more northern-shifted than ancient Greeks due to mixing with various peoples (including Slavic admixture in Northern Greece), but they still surely have a lot of their ancestry from ancient Greeks.

    But in a a genetic sense I don't know if an antique Greek from Rhodos was notably different to an indigenous Lydian at the the couast of Asia Minor. What do you think?
    Hard to say, we don't have any Lydian samples.

    But I think they could be noticeably different.

    Lydians could be like modern Cypriots, which still makes them different from Insular Greeks.

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    Ancient Lydians are the people from Smyrna and Ephesus.

    They were highly cultured and wealthy and established majority of industry on mainland Greece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perunovsin View Post
    God I hate you guys, Im going to war alongside anyone that will be killing you guys in the future, thats for sure, then ill give you something to fucking fear
    Oh, I am scared now. Do you or your family still keep some srbosjek, a main croatian weapon from the WW2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perunovsin View Post
    I would not include Romania into balkans for sure, the mentality of these people is unlike Yugoslav, or Bulgarian mentality, but I would include Hungary, they are pretty similar to us, and pretty cool overall
    Wrong, croats are similar to central euros like hungarians, but hungarians are not similar to balkanites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Wrong, croats are similar to central euros like hungarians, but hungarians are not similar to balkanites.
    Even the Croat agrees that I'm more central europen than u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I wonder how much "European" would a Bronze Age Mycenaean sample submitted to 23andMe score in their algorithm? Or a Minoan?
    It would be my ultimate desiderate to have 23andMe's ancestry composition calculator as an off-line tool that you can feed with whatever raw data!! (Including their performance to phase, if you also have the raw data of one or two parents.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GDDR6 View Post
    Oh, I am scared now. Do you or your family still keep some srbosjek, a main croatian weapon from the WW2?
    I first had a bad consciousness for getting off topic by eventually discussing heritage calculations with Tomenable, but when I see these derailings I feel less guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Wrong, croats are similar to central euros like hungarians, but hungarians are not similar to balkanites.
    Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    I first had a bad consciousness for getting off topic by eventually discussing heritage calculations with Tomenable, but when I see these derailings I feel less guilty.
    Never feel bad for a pole

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