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    Bosnian Muslims were completly Oriental in way of life, until communism 1945.
    But Christians were not.

    This is video from 1941.



    In first part are Bosnian Muslims, from 3:45 Bosnian Serbs (with two Gipsy musician).

    Completely different behaviour and way of life.
    Just compare difference in clothing, the position of women in society...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Actually, except of N. Macedonia, the rest of west Balkans was less than 500 years part of Ottoman empire.

    Actually Slovenia and most of Croatia were not part of this Ottoman geopolitical sphere of influence. Unfortunately for them, they became part of Yugoslavia, which was practically an offspring of the Ottoman sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    See the towns and the villages during that time around the Balkans - even in the twenties, they looked more or less oriental. All Balkan states demolished Ottoman buildings and tried to make their cities more European.

    Especially Albanian towns and villages in Macedonia still in the 21th century do look oriental. You see mosqu. Houses have big fences, as tradition, before it was useful as they wanted to hide the women. Albanians want to show to the others how much money they have, all of them want Mercedes, Audi, Bmw. When they work in the west and start eventually to have money, they build huge houses in their home village (doesnt matter that they go there twice in 5 years), again to show how good they are to others. These and many other things describe the typical oriental mentality.
    We didn't inherit any mosques except the one in the center of Tirana which was preserved. The rest were built after 1990s. And I wish they built something but they didn't. A tiny bridge in some corner of Tirana is their biggest legacy Their attitude was more like "kill yourselves".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Actually Slovenia and most of Croatia were not part of this Ottoman geopolitical sphere of influence. Unfortunately for them, they became part of Yugoslavia, which was practically an offspring of the Ottoman sphere.
    Some 60-70% of Croatia was part of Ottoman empire for at least 100 years, as you can see on map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Some 60-70% of Croatia was part of Ottoman empire for at least 100 years, as you can see on map.
    It's good that you like the details. But...

    Besides these "at least 100 years", Croats existed also outside them. And they were part of a culture which was non existent in Serbia for example (except in Vojvodina).

    They are also Catholic and weren't part of Rum Millet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    It's good that you like the details. But...

    Besides these "at least 100 years", Croats existed also outside them. And they were part of a culture which was non existent in Serbia for example (except in Vojvodina).

    They are also Catholic and weren't part of Rum Millet.
    Catholics (today Croatians) of Bosnia and Herzegovina lived under the Ottoman rule about 400 years. Some parts of modern Croatia were up to 200 years or even more under the Ottomans. For example Imotski was under the Otooman from 1492 to 1717 (225 years) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imotski#History
    Percentage of Croatians in Croatia who have origin from BiH only in the last 100 years is huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    They are also Catholic and weren't part of Rum Millet.
    So?
    Bosnian Croats Catholic mass.



    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...tion,_1901.jpg


    Way more Oriental than Bosnian Serbs, and closer to Bosnian Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Catholics (today Croatians) of Bosnia and Herzegovina lived under the Ottoman rule about 400 years. Some parts of modern Croatia were up to 200 years or even more under the Ottomans. For example Imotski was under the Otooman from 1492 to 1717 (225 years) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imotski#History
    Percentage of Croatians in Croatia who have origin from BiH only in the last 100 years is huge.
    Imotski was 225 years under the Ottomans, 80 years under the Venetians (1717-1797), 112 years under the Habsburgs (1797-1805, 1814-1918) and 9 years under the French rule (1805-1814). It was almost almost 3 times longer Ottoman than Venetian, and more Ottoman than Venetian, Habsburg and French together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    So?
    Bosnian Croats Catholic mass.



    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...tion,_1901.jpg


    Way more Oriental than Bosnian Serbs, and closer to Bosnian Muslims.
    Haha, more oriental than Bosnian Serbs. Serbs living in a fantasy world.

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