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Thread: Is Balkan mentality closer to that of other Europeans, the Near East or a combination of the two?

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    Identical with the Near Eastern.

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    This comparison would require the existence of an actual "Balkan mentality".

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    Albanians and Bosnians have clearly Middle Eastern mentality. Clothes, culture, gastronomy, religion (they worship to a pederast), language (overall Bosnians), architecture, scientific, historical and sport achievements... and both countries poverty is consistent with that of the Middle Eastern countries. Even there are African and Latin American countries richer than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linet View Post
    Which one is the European mentality? ....the French one? The German one? The Spanish one? The Italian one? The Norwegean one? the Maltese one? The Russian? etc etc etc and by balkan mentality which one you mean? The Romanian or the Greek? Because our mentalities are like night and day ....the Albanian or the Serbian? The Croatian or the Bulgarian? which mentality? ....we are not one thing, we dont come out of a "Balkan maker" factory
    don't worry, Greece is Southern Europe, not Balkans you have nothing to worry, we don't refer to Greeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Albanians and Bosnians have clearly Middle Eastern mentality. Clothes, culture, gastronomy, religion (they worship to a pederast), language (overall Bosnians), architecture, scientific, historical and sport achievements... and both countries poverty is consistent with that of the Middle Eastern countries. Even there are African and Latin American countries richer than them.
    The Muslims of the Balkan were mostly wealthy and educated urban citizens, while the Christians were illiterate peasants from the rural lands in the Ottoman times. The social rise was the basis of the islamization in the Ottoman Balkan. Because of this richer culturally Bosnia and Albania until today. And an another reason was significant too, and that was the modernistaion, what was a nationalistic policy in the post-Ottoman states and this nationalism, the cultural uniformity of their nationalist narratives weakened these contries culture too. This increased the Gypsies' role in the Balkanite cultural life, especially in Serbia. They were a periferical society otside the modernist tendencies, and because of this, they preserved and mediated the old, premodern Balkan culture to the modern and postmodern Balkanite society. The simplifying effect of the nationalism did not affect them and their creativeness and sensitivity remained.

    But the whole modernisation/westernization was only a glaze on the Balkanite Christians socio-cultural behavior. The old reflexes are untouched in the depth and the Balkan is nothing more than a modernized Christian Near East as some part of Lebanon. They are westernized from outside only.

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    I would call it "Ottoman mentality" and yes, there is:

    Bulgaria, Romania, Macedonia, Albania, Bosnia, Serbia, Western Turkey - yes

    Croatia - idk

    Slovenia - no

    Greece, Cyprus - is South Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gökhan View Post
    I would call it "Ottoman mentality" and yes, there is:
    What was the clear and direct continuation of the Byzantine traditions.

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    One of my friends was in Croatia and Montenegro recently and he told me our culture is a mixture between Southern European and Slavic, hes Polish. We love to eat but we also love to drink But yes there is a lot of Turkish input, our cuisine completely ( burek, pita , baklava, ćevapi, etc ), our traditional music has Turkish input and maybe and our hot temper ( which I have too ) i dont know, if its a Turkish influence, Slavic influence or Ilyrian influence.

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    Croatia has never been Balkan country, despite agressive attempts to put us in that ''region'' . Eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Шишани View Post


    Maybe in your dreams.
    You should be honored that he portrayed caucasians as a good example, because people here bash you daily, in a lot of threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gökhan View Post
    I would call it "Ottoman mentality" and yes, there is:

    Bulgaria, Romania, Macedonia, Albania, Bosnia, Serbia, Western Turkey - yes

    Croatia - idk

    Slovenia - no

    Greece, Cyprus - is South Europe

    There is not such thing as 'ottoman mentality' my friend, never existed and never will exist. You are giving too much credit to a dynasty of 400 tents that brought devastation and backwardness everywhere.



    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The Muslims of the Balkan were mostly wealthy and educated urban citizens, while the Christians were illiterate peasants from the rural lands in the Ottoman times. The social rise was the basis of the islamization in the Ottoman Balkan. Because of this richer culturally Bosnia and Albania until today. And an another reason was significant too, and that was the modernistaion, what was a nationalistic policy in the post-Ottoman states and this nationalism, the cultural uniformity of their nationalist narratives weakened these contries culture too. This increased the Gypsies' role in the Balkanite cultural life, especially in Serbia. They were a periferical society otside the modernist tendencies, and because of this, they preserved and mediated the old, premodern Balkan culture to the modern and postmodern Balkanite society. The simplifying effect of the nationalism did not affect them and their creativeness and sensitivity remained.

    But the whole modernisation/westernization was only a glaze on the Balkanite Christians socio-cultural behavior. The old reflexes are untouched in the depth and the Balkan is nothing more than a modernized Christian Near East as some part of Lebanon. They are westernized from outside only.
    I do not know about Bosnia, but albanians didn't get richer during ottoman invasion. Do not confuse some certain albanian rulers with the general population. Ottomans times are the biggest wound and darkest part of albanians' history and besides blood, destruction and total backwardness, ottomans brought nothing else.

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