Yemen - Saudi war

[RandoBloom]

Erdogan supported Saudis in Yemen.

So what exactly is going on? What is this about? I have no clue.

Its about containing Iranian influence. In the past year Iran took control of Iraq and Syria.
Now if Houthis win it will take over Yemen. Thus it will literaly surround Saudi Arabia from North and South, split Turkey off from the rest of middle east via Iraq+Syria and since Iran has bases in Eritrea "to fight pirates" with Yemen it will be able to control not only Hormuz, but also Bab-el Mandeb and thus Suez canal, which is why Gulf Kingdoms and Egypt are getting involved.

[RandoBloom]

And the map so you understand, Green = Iran, Blue = Pro Iranian regimes/rebbelions, Red = reasons for conflict

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Its about containing Iranian influence. In the past year Iran took control of Iraq and Syria.
Now if Houthis win it will take over Yemen. Thus it will literaly surround Saudi Arabia from North and South, split Turkey off from the rest of middle east via Iraq+Syria and since Iran has bases in Eritrea "to fight pirates" with Yemen it will be able to control not only Hormuz, but also Bab-el Mandeb and thus Suez canal, which is why Gulf Kingdoms and Egypt are getting involved.

The Gulf-Arab states will see any rising/powerfull nation, that isn't part of the American Dream Team (allies) as a threat.

Case in point, back in the late 1980s, after Saddam ended the Iran-Iraq war, a war he fought on the behalf ot these Gulf rulers.... Growing fears of Saddams influence and larg military complex was considered as a threat.

Iraq was also in debt to these gulf-countries, and to even worsen condition and strangle saddam and the Iraqi economy, Gulf countries spearheaded by Saudi Arabia & Kuwait, started to manipulate with the oil-prices, Iraq being a country that was very dependent on oil-exports, a strategy that's very similar to what's going on today.... as the current price of crude oil "Brent", is in the 40'ish 50'ish zone, only this time It's geared towards Iranians & Russians.

Saddam Invaded Kuwait, and the rest is history... they rallied a coalition of some 30-40 countries to destroy iraq, and force Embargos and sanctions to strangle iraqi Economy, preparing for what then would happend later: A weak iraq, ruled by a dictatorial regime, sanctioned, poor & weak, perfect for exploitation.

Saudi Arabia & the gulf countries, have litterly destroyed every sovreign arab nation, from Iraq, to Syria, to Libya, to afghanistan...

These gulf arab stray dogs, have spent billions on destroying lives from Chechnya to Algeria in the 1990s, up till this day, but the walls protecting these fuckers are getting cracked, and the whole thing will come crumbling down upon them

Saudi arabia is incapable of building a functioning model... and those abovementioned failed "Solutions" are just an example

These racist gulf arabs, see themselves as superior, and other arabs should remain poor and broken down for them to exploit.

I sure as hell don't mind iranian influence in my country, I don't even mind to commit a genocide, just delete that god-awfull disgusting barbaric Gulf Arab race/Culture from exsistence... so the world can go on, they don't desrve that oil, even the Qu'ran have cursed these people.

Now they want to invest, in some All-global Shia/Sunni war, just set the whole region on fire and see it fight, just so they can stay in power, going from father to son.

[Sarmatian]

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These racist gulf arabs, see themselves as superior, and other arabs should remain poor and broken down for them to exploit.
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Which exactly the reason why Putin told Saudi prince to GTFO when the latter came to Moscow in a bid for Russia to replace US in Saudi-American alliance since Saudis are really unhappy with series of latest US political failures in the region.

[StonyArabia]

The Gulf-Arab states will see any rising/powerfull nation, that isn't part of the American Dream Team (allies) as a threat.

Case in point, back in the late 1980s, after Saddam ended the Iran-Iraq war, a war he fought on the behalf ot these Gulf rulers.... Growing fears of Saddams influence and larg military complex was considered as a threat.

Iraq was also in debt to these gulf-countries, and to even worsen condition and strangle saddam and the Iraqi economy, Gulf countries spearheaded by Saudi Arabia & Kuwait, started to manipulate with the oil-prices, Iraq being a country that was very dependent on oil-exports, a strategy that's very similar to what's going on today.... as the current price of crude oil "Brent", is in the 40'ish 50'ish zone, only this time It's geared towards Iranians & Russians.

Saddam Invaded Kuwait, and the rest is history... they rallied a coalition of some 30-40 countries to destroy iraq, and force Embargos and sanctions to strangle iraqi Economy, preparing for what then would happend later: A weak iraq, ruled by a dictatorial regime, sanctioned, poor & weak, perfect for exploitation.

Saudi Arabia & the gulf countries, have litterly destroyed every sovreign arab nation, from Iraq, to Syria, to Libya, to afghanistan...

These gulf arab stray dogs, have spent billions on destroying lives from Chechnya to Algeria in the 1990s, up till this day, but the walls protecting these fuckers are getting cracked, and the whole thing will come crumbling down upon them

Saudi arabia is incapable of building a functioning model... and those abovementioned failed "Solutions" are just an example

These racist gulf arabs, see themselves as superior, and other arabs should remain poor and broken down for them to exploit.

I sure as hell don't mind iranian influence in my country, I don't even mind to commit a genocide, just delete that god-awfull disgusting barbaric Gulf Arab race/Culture from exsistence... so the world can go on, they don't desrve that oil, even the Qu'ran have cursed these people.

Now they want to invest, in some All-global Shia/Sunni war, just set the whole region on fire and see it fight, just so they can stay in power, going from father to son.

You don't mind Iranian influence so speak for yourself. We the people of western Iraq and Jordan do. The reason that Iraq is in this situation is due to Iranian influence which has been negative. If you think that western Iraqis see and welcome Iranian influence you are quite wrong. They see themselves very close to Jordanians and in fact they are the same people divided by an artificial border. If you want to be Persianized that's your choice, but leave the Bedouins of western Iraq aka the Syrian desert region alone, we are Bedouins and we are Arabians and will continue to be such.

I can understand that you might have problem with the monarchies of the region but the people as whole deserve to suffer despite the fact they are your brethren.

Iranian, Turkish and yes the Arabian monarchies in Arabia all had negative impact almost at equal levels since they mirror each other in more ways then one. I would not mind Iranian influence if it was purely geopolitical without the religious and assimilationist agenda hence why the monarchies and Turkey are mirror images of each other just playing on a different tune.

[zarzian]

You don't mind Iranian influence so speak for yourself. We the people of western Iraq and Jordan do. The Iranian backed militias and what they did to us will not be forgotten. The reason that Iraq is in this situation is due to Iranian influence which has been negative. If you think that western Iraqis see and welcome Iranian influence you are quite wrong. They see themselves very close to Jordanians and in fact they are the same people divided by an artificial border. If you want to be Persianized that's your choice, but leave the Bedouins of western Iraq aka the Syrian desert region alone, we are Bedouins and we are Arabians and will continue to be such.

I can understand that you might have problem with the monarchies of the region but the people as whole deserve to suffer despite the fact they are your brethren.

Iranian, Turkish and yes the Arabian monarchies in Arabia all had negative impact almost at equal levels since they mirror each other in more ways then one.

But Iran is helping a lot of Arabian groups man, not only Shiite ones either. For example look who is supporting the Palestinians more then even their Arab kin, and this is the way you show appreciation? As far as I'm concerned, your claiming lands for Bedouins which shouldn't belong to them historically, I mean western Iraq? That is not Bedouin lands historically.

[StonyArabia]

But Iran is helping a lot of Arabian groups man, not only Shiite ones either. For example look who is supporting the Palestinians more then even their Arab kin, and this is the way you show appreciation? As far as I'm concerned, your claiming lands for Bedouins which shouldn't belong to them historically, I mean western Iraq? That is not Bedouin lands historically.

Like I have said the Iranian people should not be represented by their government. The influence of Iran has been a bit more positive then that of the Arab monarchies or Turkey. If Iran did not have religious dynamic in it's geopolitical elements it would be the most positive player. Don't take my hostility toward the Iranian government as it's toward the Iranian people. I despise the Arab monarchies as they had a very negative influence and are part of this mayhem that's going on, but the people who live there should not be represented by the monarchies and say they deserve to be killed and are disgusting that's a generalization over the top, nubenucchzar words. Well there was other north Arabian tribes that lived there. The tribes see all the players to be negative on them but the most despised by them is not Iran or Turkey but the monarchies who they see as traitors and have done nothing for their kin or other Muslims like the Royinga in Myanmar one of the most oppressed groups. They reject Iran because of fear of assimilation but they do respect it's positive elements and it's outreach, if it was secular it would be very different.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

You don't mind Iranian influence so speak for yourself. We the people of western Iraq and Jordan do. The reason that Iraq is in this situation is due to Iranian influence which has been negative. If you think that western Iraqis see and welcome Iranian influence you are quite wrong. They see themselves very close to Jordanians and in fact they are the same people divided by an artificial border. If you want to be Persianized that's your choice, but leave the Bedouins of western Iraq aka the Syrian desert region alone, we are Bedouins and we are Arabians and will continue to be such.

I can understand that you might have problem with the monarchies of the region but the people as whole deserve to suffer despite the fact they are your brethren.

Iranian, Turkish and yes the Arabian monarchies in Arabia all had negative impact almost at equal levels since they mirror each other in more ways then one. I would not mind Iranian influence if it was purely geopolitical without the religious and assimilationist agenda hence why the monarchies and Turkey are mirror images of each other just playing on a different tune.

Okay, so let me put it this way for you Nabatea1, you so called "Prideful Arab bedouins of Iraq & Jordan" didn't mind the american/isreali influence in the region for the past 60-80 years, yet you are allergic/senstive to Russian, Iranian or any other influence that isn't American. Speaking of persianizing, I don't think that Iran is trying to export "Persianism" or make arabs into "Persians", because that really makes no sense to me, it's pointless, persians will never be arabs, and arabs will never persians. PERIOD.

I for once, since seeing the light to this world 1992, I woke up to an American/Zionist controlled region in the M.E., just like my father before me, and to be quite frank with you, Americans haven't done the best job in the region, so why not give the Persians a chance. Why not collide with countries such as Iran, Russia, China... instead of those god-awful americans and their wars, and robing of natural ressources. Why should we all put our eggs in the basket of americans, and they're awful hired tyrants, to rule us, humiliate us and rob us blind.

Look what gulf-countries have made out of arabs & muslims, to the world we're nothing short of rag wearing, backwards desert savages, the beheads those who appose us. branding ISIS as ALL the Muslims, and you know how much I disklike Islam, but this is the Truth, Gulf countries have humiliated the Ummah (Nation), and that's why Tribe leaders (Gulf Rulers), shall never be crowned as kings or leaders, because their mentality is not cut for such, these are people with no heritage, no history, no identity.... Just a bunch of desert Savages, killing and pillaging like some mongols, and now they've got money, because of the oil discovery.

Well, that's unless you bedouins are puppets, thus I could totally understand, why you'd have americans and tawagheet as rulers, instead of your own pride. I despise bedouins & tribalism, it's stupid, backwards, dividing,weakning and counter-productive.

Yes I do admit, that my previous comment about gulf arabs, being a bit too harsh, but seriously I'm starting to lose faith in these people, and them being humane. All that money, welfare, luxury and access to education and they're still incompetents ruled by these corrupt dinosaurs. They're still backwards, brutal, barbaric countries that exploit the poor and spend money on destruction of other peoples lives.

Thanks to the pridefull people of Yemen, who despite being poor and weak are standing up against the tyranical Saudi Regime & the United states. Truly these people of Yemen are an honour for all arab.

[StonyArabia]

Okay, so let me put it this way for you Nabatea1, you so called "Prideful Arab bedouins of Iraq & Jordan" didn't mind the american/isreali influence in the region for the past 60-80 years, yet you are allergic/senstive to Russian, Iranian or any other influence that isn't American. Speaking of persianizing, I don't think that Iran is trying to export "Persianism" or make arabs into "Persians", because that really makes no sense to me, it's pointless, persians will never be arabs, and arabs will never persians. PERIOD.

I for once, since seeing the light to this world 1992, I woke up to an American/Zionist controlled region in the M.E., just like my father before me, and to be quite frank with you, Americans haven't done the best job in the region, so why not give the Persians a chance. Why not collide with countries such as Iran, Russia, China... instead of those god-awful americans and their wars, and robing of natural ressources. Why should we all put our eggs in the basket of americans, and they're awful hired tyrants, to rule us, humiliate us and rob us blind.

Look what gulf-countries have made out of arabs & muslims, to the world we're nothing short of rag wearing, backwards desert savages, the beheads those who appose us. branding ISIS as ALL the Muslims, and you know how much I disklike Islam, but this is the Truth, Gulf countries have humiliated the Ummah (Nation), and that's why Tribe leaders (Gulf Rulers), shall never be crowned as kings or leaders, because their mentality is not cut for such, these are people with no heritage, no history, no identity.... Just a bunch of desert Savages, killing and pillaging like some mongols, and now they've got money, because of the oil discovery.

Well, that's unless you bedouins are puppets, thus I could totally understand, why you'd have americans and tawagheet as rulers, instead of your own pride. I despise bedouins & tribalism, it's stupid, backwards, dividing,weakning and counter-productive.

Yes I do admit, that my previous comment about gulf arabs, being a bit too harsh, but seriously I'm starting to lose faith in these people, and them being humane. All that money, welfare, luxury and access to education and they're still incompetents ruled by these corrupt dinosaurs. They're still backwards, brutal, barbaric countries that exploit the poor and spend money on destruction of other peoples lives.

Why should welcome other people like Russians, Chinese, Persians to dictate the affairs of the region why not the people be independent?. The American influence has been very negative in the Middle East and no one welcomes it other than the few monarchies. As you know when the Americans thought they would have an easy time cruising in the Syrian Desert areas of Western Iraq they but they were met with heavy resistance, and not welcomed at all. It was only later there was an alliance of a moment to drive the terrorist AQ away from the region.

Well I agree the monarchies have done great damage to the image of Islam, and the Middle East in general. In fact there was an Islamic prophecy that people will govern this region will be one of the most corrupt and such. This does not mean all the people inside there agree with the rulers, you do realize many are against the monarchies and it's policies?

No they do, they are the descendants of the Nabateans, Thumidics, Layhanites, Dedanites,Midianites, Sabean, Minean, and other Arabian civilizations in the region.

We are proud don't listen to anyone we don't care about Americans or the idiotic monarchs . However our tribe is our nation and we take the most pride in that, why would that be wrong. All Bedouin tribes feel very close to each other even if they have dispute, they are ethnicity as you might now but with tribes as the main important element.

[RandoBloom]

The Gulf-Arab states will see any rising/powerfull nation, that isn't part of the American Dream Team (allies) as a threat.

Case in point, back in the late 1980s, after Saddam ended the Iran-Iraq war, a war he fought on the behalf ot these Gulf rulers.... Growing fears of Saddams influence and larg military complex was considered as a threat.

Iraq was also in debt to these gulf-countries, and to even worsen condition and strangle saddam and the Iraqi economy, Gulf countries spearheaded by Saudi Arabia & Kuwait, started to manipulate with the oil-prices, Iraq being a country that was very dependent on oil-exports, a strategy that's very similar to what's going on today.... as the current price of crude oil "Brent", is in the 40'ish 50'ish zone, only this time It's geared towards Iranians & Russians.

Saddam Invaded Kuwait, and the rest is history... they rallied a coalition of some 30-40 countries to destroy iraq, and force Embargos and sanctions to strangle iraqi Economy, preparing for what then would happend later: A weak iraq, ruled by a dictatorial regime, sanctioned, poor & weak, perfect for exploitation.

Saudi Arabia & the gulf countries, have litterly destroyed every sovreign arab nation, from Iraq, to Syria, to Libya, to afghanistan...

These gulf arab stray dogs, have spent billions on destroying lives from Chechnya to Algeria in the 1990s, up till this day, but the walls protecting these fuckers are getting cracked, and the whole thing will come crumbling down upon them

Saudi arabia is incapable of building a functioning model... and those abovementioned failed "Solutions" are just an example

These racist gulf arabs, see themselves as superior, and other arabs should remain poor and broken down for them to exploit.

I sure as hell don't mind iranian influence in my country, I don't even mind to commit a genocide, just delete that god-awfull disgusting barbaric Gulf Arab race/Culture from exsistence... so the world can go on, they don't desrve that oil, even the Qu'ran have cursed these people.

Now they want to invest, in some All-global Shia/Sunni war, just set the whole region on fire and see it fight, just so they can stay in power, going from father to son.

They supported Saddam as long as he didnt have any territorial desires on themselves. Once he invaded Kuwait other kingdoms in the region had every right to fear him and fight him.

How have they destroyed lives? By financing defence of those areas from Russian and other invasions?

It doesnt matter what Saudis are capable of building since they have no territorial expansion plans, or domination. They are issolationist.

They see other Arabs as decadent. Which they are. Syria, Iraq, Jordan are quite secular.

First you say you dont mind extermination of them, and then you hold it against them when they want to defend themselves?
Speak honest. If Iran could attack Saudi Arabia, without fear of foreign intervention, would it do it?

Okay, so let me put it this way for you Nabatea1, you so called "Prideful Arab bedouins of Iraq & Jordan" didn't mind the american/isreali influence in the region for the past 60-80 years, yet you are allergic/senstive to Russian, Iranian or any other influence that isn't American. Speaking of persianizing, I don't think that Iran is trying to export "Persianism" or make arabs into "Persians", because that really makes no sense to me, it's pointless, persians will never be arabs, and arabs will never persians. PERIOD.

Because Russian influence is inescapeable. Once you fall under them you cant leave without a war or have even symbolic amount of self governance. People dont want that.
Iranian influence is followed by Shiaism. If that wasnt the case no one would really oppose it. But why follow a country whose goal it is to convert you and in which you will be discriminated?

I for once, since seeing the light to this world 1992, I woke up to an American/Zionist controlled region in the M.E., just like my father before me, and to be quite frank with you, Americans haven't done the best job in the region, so why not give the Persians a chance. Why not collide with countries such as Iran, Russia, China... instead of those god-awful americans and their wars, and robing of natural ressources. Why should we all put our eggs in the basket of americans, and they're awful hired tyrants, to rule us, humiliate us and rob us blind.

Iran = Shiaism guaranteed.
Russia = no escape, slavery
China = partner who would sell you for personal benefit

Look what gulf-countries have made out of arabs & muslims, to the world we're nothing short of rag wearing, backwards desert savages, the beheads those who appose us. branding ISIS as ALL the Muslims, and you know how much I disklike Islam, but this is the Truth, Gulf countries have humiliated the Ummah (Nation), and that's why Tribe leaders (Gulf Rulers), shall never be crowned as kings or leaders, because their mentality is not cut for such, these are people with no heritage, no history, no identity.... Just a bunch of desert Savages, killing and pillaging like some mongols, and now they've got money, because of the oil discovery.

They dont ask to be leaders of Ummah. They ask to be left alone. Its Iran who is poking at them with Yemen, not the other way around.

Well, that's unless you bedouins are puppets, thus I could totally understand, why you'd have americans and tawagheet as rulers, instead of your own pride. I despise bedouins & tribalism, it's stupid, backwards, dividing,weakning and counter-productive.

If there was no great power involved there, and arabo/persian states could do whatever the fuck they pleased and attack whoever, would the place be more peaceful or not? Again, honest question

Yes I do admit, that my previous comment about gulf arabs, being a bit too harsh, but seriously I'm starting to lose faith in these people, and them being humane. All that money, welfare, luxury and access to education and they're still incompetents ruled by these corrupt dinosaurs. They're still backwards, brutal, barbaric countries that exploit the poor and spend money on destruction of other peoples lives.

What is Iran like?

Thanks to the pridefull people of Yemen, who despite being poor and weak are standing up against the tyranical Saudi Regime & the United states. Truly these people of Yemen are an honour for all arab.

They arent standing up to tyranical regime. They werent ocupied by tyranical regime. The Yemeni rebbels are servants of Iran