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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Well then say it. What is it that the map depicts.
    It displays genetic affinities between Southern Europeans, including Turks, and Central Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Шишани View Post
    It displays genetic affinities between Southern Europeans, including Turks, and Central Asians.
    This map is based solely on Y-dna haplogroups which represent an insignificant fraction of a population's genetic makeup. It is the autosomal dna that shows the true genetic character of a nation. Turks are predominantly west-asian just like armenians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    This map is based solely on Y-dna haplogroups which represent an insignificant fraction of a population's genetic makeup. It is the autosomal dna that shows the true genetic character of a nation. Turks are predominantly west-asian just like armenians.
    Turks are predominantly like a mix of Greeks/Southern Europeans and Levantines/Middle Easterners.

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    Also, between Kazakhs and Chechens very tense relationship. Chechens appeared in Kazakhstan in 1944, after the deportation. Due to the fact that they are heating up the criminal situation, Kazakhs staged anti-Chechen pogroms in 1950-s. The feud flared up again in the late 80s and 90s. Throughout Kazakhstan a wave of pogroms. Recent anti-Chechen riots took place in 2007, in the Almaty region, in southern Kazakhstan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Шишани View Post
    Turks are predominantly like a mix of Greeks/Southern Europeans and Levantines/Middle Easterners.
    Nope not at all, they are mostly Anatolian of origins with minor Turkic blood depending on the region of Turkey and closely related to other Anatolians like Armenians, Assyrians, Greek-Anatolians, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hashoeva View Post
    Nope not at all, they are mostly Anatolian of origins with minor Turkic blood depending on the region of Turkey and closely related to other Anatolians like Armenians, Assyrians, Greek-Anatolians, etc.
    I have said exactly the same.

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    None of you have a real history knowledge except parroting the same old memorized, made up stories. 'Turks are mostly this, minor Turkic that'. Find some new material.

    Expert on the Seljuk history, Claude Cahen stated that there is no sign in historical records that confirms a mass conversion of Anatolian Christians. Considering that one of the main conditions of mixture between nations is having the same religion, Turks assimilating local Christians theory is nothing but an urban legend. That is why you always write the same text but can never prove it. Politically motivated DNA-genetic studies, carried out with 15 blood samples average is not science, it is a perception operation with an agenda behind it.

    There is no such thing as, 'Anatolian or Greek-Armenian genes' either since there is no ethnicity called Anatolian and the origin of Arm. is not even known and Arm. is completely a made up identity.

    Modern Greek identity was built on Orthodoxy so if you are looking for assimilation, what you call Greek nation today was formed by Albanians, Vlachs, Slavs, and Karamanlides who pledged loyalty to Greek Orthodox church and adopted Greek language. As Engels wrote in 19th century, Greek as an ethnic identity remained in the past and does not exist anymore

    Turks and Persians are the only two historical nations with state tradition in Asia Minor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorg View Post
    Also, between Kazakhs and Chechens very tense relationship. Chechens appeared in Kazakhstan in 1944, after the deportation. Due to the fact that they are heating up the criminal situation, Kazakhs staged anti-Chechen pogroms in 1950-s. The feud flared up again in the late 80s and 90s. Throughout Kazakhstan a wave of pogroms. Recent anti-Chechen riots took place in 2007, in the Almaty region, in southern Kazakhstan.
    Can you tell us more about those riot? We didn't heard about in europe and i'am interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean le bon View Post
    Can you tell us more about those riot? We didn't heard about in europe and i'am interest.
    From Wiki:

    1951 anti-Chechen pogrom in Eastern Kazakhstan

    The anti-Chechen pogrom in Eastern Kazakhstan took place in spring and summer, 1951, in Eastern Kazakhstan (part of the Soviet Union at the time), upon ethnic tensions between mainly ethnic Russians and deported Chechens. A blood libel rumor, according to which the Chechens allegedly use "Christian blood in their rituals" may also have contributed to the escalation of events. The riots occurred in 3 cities - Leninogorsk, Ust-Kamenogorsk and Zyryanovsk.[1]

    The main riots took place on April 10, 1951, in the Chechen-city neighbourhood of Leninogorsk.[1] The riots, led by groups of amnestied criminals upon the Chechen civilians led to the deaths of 40-41 people, mainly of Caucasian origins. Arrests were late made by Soviet authorities on initiators and 50 people from among the criminals were persecuted by courts, though no riot leaders were identified.


    Kazakhs's patience ran out, when in 1955, Khrushchev proposed to form a separate republic of the Chechens and Ingush in the territory of Taldy-korgan and part of the Alma-Ata region. In the Kazakh villages and cities began the protests. Kazakhs asked the authorities to evict the Chechens back to the Grozny region. Khrushchev went as follows: he allowed all who wish to return to the Chechen-Ingush republic, and who unwilling - to stay in Kazakhstan. With a decrease in the number of Chechens, the sharpness of ethnic conflicts subsided, but when in the late 50's there were the first co-operatives, which gave rise to the first racketeering, first racketeers were the chechens.

    17-28 June 1989 in New Uzen Kazakh SSR between Kazakhs and Chechens there were serious clashes. To suppress the collisions were involved armored personnel carriers, tanks, attack helicopters and other military equipment. Authorities were able to suppress the riots only on the fourth day.

    In 1992, there were anti-Chechen riots in Ust-Kamenogorsk, after which almost all Chechens left the Eastern Kazakhstan. In the next 15 years in different regions of Kazakhstan took place pogroms, culminating in becoming the eviction of the Chechen population. The largest rebellion took place in March 2007 in the village of Malovodnoe in Almaty region. After that, the number of Chechens living in Kazakhstan, who already reduced from the collapse of the Union, fell back in twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Шишани View Post
    Turks are predominantly like a mix of Greeks/Southern Europeans and Levantines/Middle Easterners.
    Chichic you ignorant animal, why do you keep changing your username?

    Here are oracle results of Turks. Turks are a mix of Central Asians and Native Anatolians.

    Western Turks:

    South_Italian+Turkmen @ 3,595683
    Ashkenazi+Turkmen @ 4,064857
    Afghan_Uzbeki+Sephardic_Jewish @ 4,126603
    Central_Sicilian+Turkmen @ 4,514047
    Afghan_Uzbeki+South_Italian @ 4,521887
    East_Sicilian+Turkmen @ 4,806258
    Afghan_Tadjik+Sephardic_Jewish @ 5,024205
    Afghan_Uzbeki+Ashkenazi @ 5,058791
    Afghan_Uzbeki+Central_Sicilian @ 5,07421
    Turkmen+West_Sicilian @ 5,308143
    Afghan_Uzbeki+East_Sicilian @ 5,389399
    Afghan_Uzbeki+Stuttgart @ 5,601301
    Afghan_Tadjik+South_Italian @ 5,637372
    Italian_Abruzzo+Turkmen @ 5,812734

    East Central Anatolian Turks' (Cappadocia)
    50% Georgian_Imer +25% Afghan_Uzbeki +25% Stuttgart @ 0,993645
    50% Georgian_Laz +25% South_Italian +25% Turkmen @ 1,021473
    50% Georgian_Laz +25% East_Sicilian +25% Turkmen @ 1,403492
    50% Georgian_Laz +25% Central_Sicilian +25% Turkmen @ 1,406905
    50% Georgian_Imer +25% Afghan_Tadjik +25% Stuttgart @ 1,439459
    50% Georgian_Laz +25% Ashkenazi +25% Turkmen @ 1,485218
    50% Georgian_Imer +25% Stuttgart +25% Turkmen @ 1,485346
    50% Armenian +25% Afghan_Uzbeki +25% South_Italian @ 1,486082
    50% Armenian +25% Afghan_Uzbeki +25% Central_Sicilian @ 1,495251
    50% Georgian_Imer +25% Afghan_Uzbeki +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,502366

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