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    Just found out that one of my 4th great grandmothers had the surname Kosmieder. Not sure if it's German or maybe even Slavic? I'm pretty sure she was from West Prussia, so modern day Germany and Poland, but the origin of it is alluding me. Any ideas?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus27 View Post
    Just found out that one of my 4th great grandmothers had the surname Kosmieder. Not sure if it's German or maybe even Slavic? I'm pretty sure she was from West Prussia, so modern day Germany and Poland, but the origin of it is alluding me. Any ideas?
    In Poland we have the surname Kośmider, which is Polish version of German surname Koschmieder. It means, according to my knowledge, distracted or absent-minded man.

    Kośmider surname in Poland

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    its german
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    its german at least 500 years old
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    So it seems to be fairly prevalent in Poland and his German in origin? I thought it might be German and we all know that not all Polish surnames end in ski

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    A Quick search of people with the last name "Kosmeider" was Prussian in origin:

    http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/a...ider/160536778

    http://www.germanimmigrants1880s.com...ln&q=Kosmieder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armstrong View Post
    A Quick search of people with the last name "Kosmeider" was Prussian in origin:

    http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/a...ider/160536778

    http://www.germanimmigrants1880s.com...ln&q=Kosmieder
    Very interesting. I'm almost positive that my Kosmeider ancestor didn't immigrate and stayed in West Prussia/Poland, but her daughter immigrated. Either way I guess trying to classify Prussian can be pretty ambiguous with all of the different ethnic groups living there during that time period.

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    I have ancestors from modern-day Poland (Germans) with last names like Daberkow and Hoppnow. Last names ending in -ow are suppose to be Slavic in origin. I also have the last name Zirwen in my line, or Zerwin. It appears to be rare, perhaps a corruption of some Slavic name or Jewish (someone in my family told me it might be Jewish).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    I have ancestors from modern-day Poland (Germans) with last names like Daberkow and Hoppnow. Last names ending in -ow are suppose to be Slavic in origin. I also have the last name Zirwen in my line, or Zerwin. It appears to be rare, perhaps a corruption of some Slavic name or Jewish (someone in my family told me it might be Jewish).
    There was much more mixing between the Germans and the Poles than most people tend to believe. Many people in eastern Germany have Slavic roots and many Poles in western Poland have German/ic roots. Many surnames have been adopted and changed, so it isn't surprising to see many German surnames in Poland, as we both have ancestors like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus27 View Post
    Very interesting. I'm almost positive that my Kosmeider ancestor didn't immigrate and stayed in West Prussia/Poland, but her daughter immigrated. Either way I guess trying to classify Prussian can be pretty ambiguous with all of the different ethnic groups living there during that time period.
    I took the liberty to try to see the population distribution of "Kosmieder" in Germany which lead me to find this:
    http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/kosmieder.html

    You can try to use this for other German Surnames for population distributions; there were some results for "Kosmieder":
    http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx

    Both of the searches mostly pop up in Western Germany; the last name in particular shows up in the "Rheinisch-Bergischer Kreis" district.

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