Slavs vs Germanics

[Iltirbas]

An ancient conflict between the two biggest European 'pan-ethnicities' that had two of its most interesting chapters in the XX century with the Soviet Union seizing the capital of Germany in the 1940s and establishing a huge region of influence (Warsaw Pact) to lose this geo-political advantage five decades later and then see how many Slavic countries that were once so close to Russia joined the Germanics' vital project: the European Union. If this wasn't the final blow, it's probably pretty close to it and what is scarier is that after this rejection of pan-Slavist ideals west of the Dnieper –Belarus aside–, Russian thinkers and politicians emphasized a closer approach to Asia. Meanwhile, Germany and associates picked up the pieces of post-WWII Europe and slowly began a dangerous process of integration of different nations in the European continent under the tutelage of US/NATO. World War II and the Cold War were traumatic experiences that pushed both sides to the edge and in this boundary such thousand-year-old conflict went global involving many other forces while avoiding at the same time a direct confontation between the two parties of the story: Slavs and Germanics.

[Vorg]

My amateur translation of the Michail Menshikov, 1915:

All this has become a common opinion. The polite Germans, like Bismarck, explain it by "femininity" of the Slavic race, and rough Germans - by primitive of the slavs. It seems to me that it is not femininity and not primitive, but just a higher humanity, a higher level of the human spirit in comparison with the German. How Perun or Dazhdbog were much higher than the one-eyed old man with his ravens and wolves, so and Slavic-Russian folk soul is much higher than German folk, because it is softer and more humane. We will defend this superiority, giving to the Germans develop their "Germanism" in any direction, in which they want. They pulled to the devil, we - to the patience and charity of Christ, and see who wins.

[Vorg]

Michail Menshikov, 1915:



"After the extermination of millions of Russian soldiers by explosive bullets, toxic smoke, sulfuric acid and poisons expected to remain alive most of the population of the conquered Russian Empire. In the German press has been declared the project of one respected German man - "castrate the Slavic race", but it seems that to this project has not been given further movement. Also, was declared a project of full eviction of the Russian people - beyond the Urals or in the German colonies in Africa, in order to make way for the general German colonization. But this project is still under secret. Most likely, that the conquered population will not even be evicted, but will only be drawn into slavery, as it was with the population of the Roman Empire, which was conquered a 1500 years ago by the ancestors of those same Germans. Slavs - good mat for the superior race, Dungervolk, animate fertilizer. After taking away the land, capital and any surplus property from "all the peoples of Russia", the German colonists will have 180 millions of slaves, which will cost only bread, which they eat."

[Marusya]

The Russian writer, Anton Chekhov, was married to Russian actress, Olga Knipper, who had German heritage. She was Protestant.

[Fantomas]

It's no secret that since the Middle Ages, there was a confrontation between the Slavs and Germanics. What do you think, this confrontation was completed? If yes, when?

Yes, completed for sure! Since 1945, forever

[Vorg]

Michail Menshikov, 1908:

Let's imagine that Germany started against us two or three wars from all sides - in the Far East, Turkey, Finland - and occupied the Baltic region. Are you sure that the descendants of the Teutons will fight in this case for Russia - against Germany? Are you sure that 198 "Russian" diplomats with German surnames will be free from the influence of the enormous force, who called Pan-Germanism and which exhibits a crushing pressure against the Slavs in the vicinity to the Baltic States?

[glass]

Michail Menshikov, 1908:

Let's imagine that Germany started against us two or three wars from all sides - in the Far East, Turkey, Finland - and occupied the Baltic region. Are you sure that the descendants of the Teutons will fight in this case for Russia - against Germany? Are you sure that 198 "Russian" diplomats with German surnames will be free from the influence of the enormous force, who called Pan-Germanism and which exhibits a crushing pressure against the Slavs in the vicinity to the Baltic States?

Well, baltic germans did not betray Russia during ww1. They fought Germany for Russia, though when their former serfs (balts and estonians) got their independent countries, germans decided to abandon their "ancestral" territories.
Anyway many so called baltic germans considered themselves russians or at least more russian than german. You can not call someone german only because of his/her surname.

BTW there were more upper class polaks than germans. Actually every second nobleman of Russian Emprie in 19 centruy was pole

[Vorg]

"High one-eyed old man with a long beard, a wide-brimmed hat and a striped cloak. He carried a spear. On his shoulders sit the ravens, and under his feet lie two wolves. Sinister figure, does not it? This is the classic image of the "al-fёdra" German father of the gods, the lightest of aces - Wotan.

It is known that a person creates their gods in their own image and likeness. What is the true image of ancient Teuton, you see in this family portraits. Ancient echt (Echt - genuine, real, clean (it.}.) German imagination together in the idea of ​​his deity all the best that could come up. Two ravens, Hugin and Munin, who daily fly around the world and report to Wotan about everything happening - ancient prototype of a powerful modern German espionage. Two wolves, Geri and Freki (ie greedy and voracious), eat all the food which was brought to Wotan as a sacrifice - a prototype of insatiable greed and ferocity of the German race.

On the finger of Wotan - magical ring Draupnir, that every tenth night separates from himself the same eight rings - a prototype of wealth that does not require labor and growing, as a percentage of the moneylender. The only food for Wotan - wine, though the old man, apparently, and does not suffer from the effects of alcoholism. You may ask, what is the prototype of the German rapidly progressive culture? If you want - in the eight legged horse Sleipnir, on which flies Wotan. The horse is not only literate, but even on his teeth drawn runes. Remember: the runes drawn on the teeth."

[Vorg]

BTW there were more upper class polaks than germans. Actually every second nobleman of Russian Emprie in 19 centruy was pole

No. There was no predominance of any one nationality.

http://dvorianstvo.org/polnyj-spisok...ijskoj-imperii

[glass]

No. There was no predominance of any one nationality.

In Russian Empire everybody had to belong to some social class. Historically russians had very few nobles, mostly only members of ruling dynasty were nobles. While other territories and countries had very numerous "noble" class, Poland, Caucasus, Baltic provinces. So when those territories were absorbed into Empire all local nobles were granted similar status within whole Empire. Some of them left huge impact on Emptire (baltic germans for example), some very limited (poles for example).