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    Quote Originally Posted by ....... View Post
    Cerca de Uruguay, correcto?
    Pero sólo una observacion, Pelotas es la ciudad más pobre dentre las 20 mayores del sur de Brasil. Todavia, están cambiando.




    Pelotas
    2794 0.864 (2414) 0.068 (190) 0.068 (190)
    209 0.627 (131) 0.097 (20.3) 0.276 (57.7)
    602 0.407 (245) 0.079 (47.5) 0.514 (309.5)
    3605 = 77,4% European, 7,1% Amerindian, 15,5% African

    Bambui

    874 0.863 (754.3) 0.051 (44.5) 0.087 (76)
    532 0.730 (388.4) 0.076 (40.4) 0.194 (103.2)
    36 0.222 (8) 0.043 (1.5) 0.735 (26.5)
    1442 = 79,8% European, 6% Amerindian, 14.2% African

    Salvador
    71 0.570 (40.5) 0.070 (5) 0.360 (25.5)
    581 0.456 (264.9) 0.061 (35.4) 0.482 (280)
    238 0.348 (82.8) 0.052 (12.4) 0.600 (142.8)
    890 = 43,6% European, 5,9% Amerindian, 50,3% African

    Creo que estos números son los más correctos, visto que testes anteriores tenían resultados díspares, pero no así de detallado.
    si para mi los resultados de los estudios epigen son los mejores para brazil. No me creo esos estudios viejos donde supuestamente ramires y kaka salen igual de euro

    Lo malo es que al parecer,bambui no es representativo para toda minas gerais, y salvador no es repersentativa para toda bahia

    Habria que sacar el promedio estatal segun los % de brancos, pardos pretos del censo brasilero 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    The majority of Pelotas/Bambui from that study are over 80% euro. Here a boxplot from another study of EPigen, in the supplementary material.

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    si para mi los resultados de los estudios epigen son los mejores para brazil. No me creo esos estudios viejos donde supuestamente ramires y kaka salen igual de euro

    Lo malo es que al parecer,bambui no es representativo para toda minas gerais, y salvador no es repersentativa para toda bahia

    Habria que sacar el promedio estatal segun los % de brancos, pardos pretos del censo brasilero 2010
    Sí la verdade es que ninguna de las tres representan bien sus regiones, RS es mas europea que Pelotas, Minas es menos europea que Bambui y Salvador mucho menos representa todo el nordeste (ni Bahia), talvez esa ultima es que tiene más diferencias visto que en un teste realizado en varias cidades del interior de varios estados en esa región registro un promedio de 64% de sangre europea.

    Pero acá puedes tener una ideia somando los 'nuevos' numeros con las proporciones del link abajo (s= 5851), Brasil podria ser 72,9% europeu, 6,6% indígena e 20,5% africano con 62.9% de blancos, 19,1% de pardos e 18,1% de negros con los 80%+ europeus sendo a maioria.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/srep09812/tables/1

    Salvo engano, Bahia no tuve ninguno individuo 80% o más europeu en ese teste (o cosa minima), así que podemos decir que los 80%+ europeus son todos de Bambui o Pelotas, considerando que 25% de 5851 es 1463, poderíamos decir que

    ~1463 son 90,1% o más europeus
    ~1463 son 82,1% europeus hasta 90,1%

    Mi estimativa para lo numero de personas entre 80%-82,1% seria una tendencia do cuartil pasado, (1463/8)*2 = ~366 personas.

    O sea el numero de 80%+ europeos podria ser de hasta 3292 (1463+1463+366) o 56,2% da amostra y si jugamos fuera las muestras Salvador tendriamos 3292/4975 = 66,1% da amostra de esos dos lugares (65% esta bien), 65% es más que los números de blancos en Bambuí (60,5), pero menos que en Pelotas (77,5%), esa diferencia presumo esta mas en los auto-identificados pardos que en los blancos.

    29,5% una estimativa para los 90% o más europeus en esas ciudades (la mineira y la gaucha).

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    PUERTO RICO

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...c8R2Ru6DfGm-BA

    Themedian ancestries across all Puerto Rican subjects were 14%African, 74% European, and 12% American.



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    Puerto Rico and Mexico

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...91674912003703

    Puerto Rico 67% european 13% native american 20% african
    Mexico 45% european 51% native american 5% african


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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Puerto Rico and Mexico

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...91674912003703

    Puerto Rico 67% european 13% native american 20% african
    Mexico 45% european 51% native american 5% african

    How much native, euro, afro, is the average Mexican American?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    PUERTO RICO

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...c8R2Ru6DfGm-BA

    Themedian ancestries across all Puerto Rican subjects were 14%African, 74% European, and 12% American.


    Interestingly this study has almost the exact same results as our GedMatch kits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skain View Post
    How much native, euro, afro, is the average Mexican American?
    If you ask me i would say around 45-55 euro 55-45 amerindian 4-5 african

    BUT it is very hard to estimate when latin american countries are regionaly heterogeneous, for example maybe a genetic study done in the south has a result of 30% euro and then a genetic study done in the north has a result of 65% euro. Same for most latin american countries (brazil, argentina, colombia) there are huge regional differences so its hard to estiamte national %. Puerto Rico maybe is more homogeneous with most people scoring similarly.

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdMan View Post
    Interestingly this study has almost the exact same results as our GedMatch kits!
    yes its actually pretty similar

    Puerto rico is one of the most homogeneous latin american countries

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    Brazil 2018 Study

    https://europepmc.org/abstract/med/29728743

    The potential European genetic predisposition fornon-contact anterior cruciate ligament injury

    Materials andmethods

    Molecular ancestry analysis was performed on genetic material collected from 733 gender and age-paired individuals (±2years). History review revealed 177 subjects with noncontact ACL injuries and 556 control subjects. This ratio of three control subjects for each subject with non-contact ACL injury was applied to improve statistical congruity. The inclusion criteria for subjects were: patients aged 18–50 with clinical diagnosis and radiographic confirmation of non-contact ACL injury with or without associated meniscal injury. Subjects were excluded if they had concomitant knee injuries, contralateral knee injuries, systemic or infectious diseases.



    The individual genetic contribution from INDELs varied considerably: ranging between 2 and 96.1% contribution for INDELs of European origin (mean of 66.7% of INDELs); between 1.5 and 94.8% contribution for INDELs of African origin (mean of 21.4% of INDELs); and between 1.3 and 96.4% contribution for INDELs of Amerindian origin (mean of 11.7% of INDELs).

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