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    Erzya are a Finno-Ugric people with considerable Siberian ancestry. You can see on this PCA they are quite peripheral in Europe...

    Modern_Europe_PCA.pdf

    These people probably aren't primarily descended from the Bronze Age steppites, rather the Proto-Finno-Ugrics who had significant Siberian ancestry and North-Eastern EHG-like groups.

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    From all modern populations Erzya Mordvins are the closest to Yamnaya. Also close are Tajiks and Ingrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    From all modern populations Erzya Mordvins are the closest to Yamnaya. Also close are Tajiks and Ingrians.
    No, it's actually Volga Turks, Nakhs, Germanics and Finno-Ugrics.


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    Mainly Baltic and Baltic-Nordic or Nordic-Baltic mix.

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    Erzya still have 5% Asian admixture like North/East Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauχum View Post
    Erzya are a Finno-Ugric people with considerable Siberian ancestry. You can see on this PCA they are quite peripheral in Europe...

    Modern_Europe_PCA.pdf

    These people probably aren't primarily descended from the Bronze Age steppites, rather the Proto-Finno-Ugrics who had significant Siberian ancestry and North-Eastern EHG-like groups.
    Erzyan East Eurasian admixture is recent Central Asian/Mongolian admixture from Turkic times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Erzyan East Eurasian admixture is recent Central Asian/Mongolian admixture from Turkic times.
    Which Turkic times do you meanings? there are at least 5 differentings Turkic timings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Which Turkic times do you meanings? there are at least 5 differentings Turkic timings.
    About 1000 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    About 1000 years ago.
    this is not Turkic timings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    this is not Turkic timings.

    Ok it was actually little older:

    Mordovians speak Finno-Ugric languages, the latter of which we group into two clusters (mordo13: 792
    (564-975CE); mordo2: 558 (179-843CE)) and, together with the Russians (russi25: 913(754-1007CE))
    and Chuvash (chuva16: 829 (627-940CE)) populations, infer admixture at approximately the same time
    (500-900CE) involving Mongolian, Central European, and Finnish donors.

    As such, the Asian admixture in these groups is likely to be associated to Turkic movements, involving the
    Huns and Avars [S?]

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