Caucasian Middle eastern peoples

**blan** · 07-01-2010, 04:05 AM

I wanted to see how the majority of the users here view the Caucasian people of places like Lebanon, Syria, palestine, Iran, ect.
I know many people of middle eastern background who i would consider white/Caucasian from a racial perspective the same way many greeks and Italians are considered white.
there are many people from lebanon who can trace there direct anncestory to greek blood.
Also i find from a cultural perspective many Christian middle eastern people have alot in common with the people of southern Europe.
Does anyone agree?
I find alot of European whites make genral statements saying all people of the middl east are ((ARAB)) or Muslim when in fact there are many who could be considered caucasian and non arab and there still are millions who are christians.

**nisse** · 07-01-2010, 04:10 AM

Where you live has a huge impact on who you are, like it or not. Having arab/muslim neighbours for centuries rubs off. That's when we are talking generalizations.

**Nodens** · 07-01-2010, 04:11 AM

Don't go here, trust me.

**blan** · 07-01-2010, 04:14 AM

yes but there are whites in places like the west indies, south and central america and africa who are still white and proud of there heritage and keep there ethnic distinctions strong,
I dont think you can write off a whole demographic of people.
Iknow many Christian phonecian Lebanese who are offended if you call them Arab or muslim, they are very proud of there distinction as Christian Phonecian people

Originally Posted by nisse

Where you live has a huge impact on who you are, like it or not. Having arab/muslim neighbours for centuries rubs off. That's when we are talking generalizations.

**blan** · 07-01-2010, 04:16 AM

its just a question man i know many people want to get all bright and feisty over things but i just wanted peoples opinion.
I am speaking of a certain group of people that can be found within the middle east that i have a interest in.

Originally Posted by Nodens

Don't go here, trust me.

**nisse** · 07-01-2010, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by blan

Iknow many Christian phonecian Lebanese who are offended if you call them Arab or muslim, they are very proud of there distinction as Christian Phonecian people

I know many Chinese people who are offended when you call them Chinese. So?

And the lebanese are notorious for trying to pass off for "white"...a friend of mine had one woman (bottle blond) trying to convince her that most lebanese are naturally blond

(btw, this was essentially unprovoked, and we had to listen to a very long (and unbelievable) lecture).

**blan** · 07-01-2010, 04:22 AM

you are speaking of Haka chinese and loas ect, those are ethnic groups, i am talking about racial distinction, what is an Arab? i am asking becuase what defines someone as Arab? from a racial stand point,
and what makes someone Arab from a cultural standpoint?

Originally Posted by nisse

I know many Chinese people who are offended when you call them Chinese. So?

And the lebanese are notorious for trying to pass off for "white"...a friend of mine had one woman (bottle blond) trying to convince her that most lebanese are naturally blond

(btw, this was essentially unprovoked, and we had to listen to a very long (and unbelievable) lecture).

**Nodens** · 07-01-2010, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by blan

its just a question man i know many people want to get all bright and feisty over things but i just wanted peoples opinion.
I am speaking of a certain group of people that can be found within the middle east that i have a interest in.

This is the type of discussion that is virtually guaranteed to turn ugly.

My take: They form a distinctly Semitic cultural group. 'White' is generally viewed as European (culturally) and Europoid (genotypically/phenotypically). So, regardless of their biology, they are not 'white' unless they were to assimilate into a European culture. Christianity does not a white European make.

As to immigration, in reasonable numbers, the only objection I have to non-European Caucasoids is the frequently significant chance of Congoid or Australoid influence/admixture. And, of course, numerous cultural incompatibilities.

**blan** · 07-01-2010, 04:45 AM

I say Christian because from a cultural perspective there is a distinction but also many people think one of the biggest problems with anyone from the middleast is islam and how it is seen as a threat to white culture.

Originally Posted by Nodens

This is the type of discussion that is virtually guaranteed to turn ugly.

My take: They form a distinctly Semitic cultural group. 'White' is generally viewed as European (culturally) and Europoid (genotypically/phenotypically). So, regardless of their biology, they are not 'white' unless they were to assimilate into a European culture. Christianity does not a white European make.

As to immigration, in reasonable numbers, the only objection I have to non-European Caucasoids is the frequently significant chance of Congoid or Australoid influence/admixture. And, of course, numerous cultural incompatibilities.