| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 4,481 Given: 2,716 |
Yeah, it is pretty cool that I can claim descent from him.Originally Posted by Gooding
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 183 Given: 209 |
Hmm would it be uncommon to find it in North Carolina?
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 2,134 Given: 12,909 |
do you mean colonial Spanish? yeah, extremely uncommon in NC unless someone in your family moved there from Louisiana or even Florida or anywhere else where it might be less unusual, I would think.
there was never any Old world/colonial Spanish settlement in the Carolinas. Especially not in NC.
maybe, I guess, Desoto took a look around real quick and then left, but that's about it.
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 2,846 Given: 2,495 |
Ah no?
The first settlements in all those areas were Spanish.
It seems as if all these historic facts are hidden to you'all by your education system. Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pardo_%28explorer%29
http://www.tulane.edu/~crodning/beck...odning2006.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_V...de_Ayll%C3%B3n
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 2,134 Given: 12,909 |
I love this partAh no?
The first settlements in all those areas were Spanish.
It seems as if all these historic facts are hidden to you'all by your education system. Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pardo_%28explorer%29
http://www.tulane.edu/~crodning/beck...odning2006.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_V...de_Ayll%C3%B3n
because they didn't make any IMPACT in the areas we were talking about
you don't have to feel so butt-hurt about it, just because you're Spanish.
they came, they saw, an they LEFT.........quickly. Except for Florida( West and East) and Louisiana (the Deep South)
but.....they didn't actually DO ANYTHING here! I promise you, the Spanish had NO impact on places like North Carolina, Tenneessee,, Virginia, even South Carolina
they may have had some earlier impact on some of the architecture styles of earlier plantations in Georgia , and they sure as hell did in Louisiana
but other than that, its not talked about because, it's as if they were never here, That's how little their presence mattered.
wow, they came here and then just fucking disappeared almost literally over night, in the region you're talking about.
that's a lot to be talked about , isn't it?
I guess they don't see why they should waste only 4 lines on a page in a school history text book, talking about a Spanish explorer who was there for 2 fucking seconds, and then dropped off the face of the earth, and left nothing behind, in terms of cultural or historical legacy in the region.
as for Florida,, Louisiana etc... we are tought about the Spanish and Iberians in those places and even people there today descended from those colonial Iberians
other than that, the only region, north of the Rio Grande, where they made any REAL impact, or anything, is the Southwestern U.S.
don't be so butt hurt just because the Spanish in this part of N. America (East of the Miss. River) did jack shit to be remembered for.
it doesn't make you look good, trying to claim every little insignificant thing, that might as well never happened in the first place , as far as anyone can tell.
in the areas where the Spanish presence in N. America mattered ,and had an important impact, is taught in our schools
so what are you bitching about?
and other than the portugese introducing chattel African slavery to new world,, they made little lasting impact, east of the Mississippi River, except for East florida, West florida, and Louisiana
again, which we are taught about in school , FYI
thank you for your concern European-Spanish, non-American ...... like anyone here is supposed to give a fuck what you have to say about it.
Native Americans and African Americans here had ALOT more important and lasting impact than the Spanish did, except for the South-western U.S. and technically southern Louisiana/Florida to a much lesser degree.
as for the links you posted, those are just 3 explorers, that's all. That's not the same as having permanent settlements or even lasting ones.
they didn't make any significant settlements. Not any that mattered historically, anyway.
wow, that one settlement that lasted 3 months. That must be a record , 3 long months, wow.
and it didn't really do anything , other than encourage the Spanish and French settlements of places like Florida and Louisiana, even more,-but they were planning on setting those places anyway. which we are taught about in school.
stupid mother fucker.
nor did they make any cultural or historical impact in this region, except for slavery, Florida (East Fl. and West Fl. and Louisiana)
just because they were merely here for 5 minutes means jack shit
half the fucking nations in Western Europe can make a claim like that.
again, w are taught about the lasting Spanish settlements in the Southeastern U.S. I places like Florida, East Florida, West Florida, Louisiana etc...
so why are you bitching over every little last Spanish explorer who came for a split second and then left? give me a fucking break
I promise, if it mattered, we would be learning about it
if they had descendants still here today, like some in Louisiana, we would, and do, know about it.
stop crying like a bitch over shit that never mattered or affected early American history to begin with.
and where it did make an impact, we do learn about it and we are taught about it. stop bitching.
it's not even your country's history. You're in Europe. don't worry about American ,or anyone else's history ,for that matter.
It makes you look desperate and confused, which you are.
besides, DeSoto had a much more important legacy as Spanish explorer in this region than the people you named
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernando_DeSoto
which we are taught about, btw, since you seem so fucking concerned about other place's histories and American history.
for some fucking reason
Last edited by Weedman; 05-10-2015 at 01:40 PM.
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 2,846 Given: 2,495 |
I love this part
because they didn't make any IMPACT in the areas we were talking about
you don't have to feel so butt-hurt about it, just because you're Spanish.
they came, they saw, an they LEFT.........quickly. Except for Florida( West and East) and Louisiana (the Deep South)
but.....they didn't actually DO ANYTHING here! I promise you, the Spanish had NO impact on places like North Carolina, Tenneessee,, Virginia, even South Carolina
they may have had some earlier impact on some of the architecture styles of earlier plantations in Georgia , and they sure as hell did in Louisiana
but other than that, its not talked about because, it's as if they were never here, That's how little their presence mattered.
wow, they came here and then just fucking disappeared almost literally over night, in the region you're talking about.
that's a lot to be talked about , isn't it?
I guess they don't see why they should waste only 4 lines on a page in a school history text book, talking about a Spanish explorer who was there for 2 fucking seconds, and then dropped off the face of the earth, and left nothing behind, in terms of cultural or historical legacy in the region.
as for Florida,, Louisiana etc... we are tought about the Spanish and Iberians in those places and even people there today descended from those colonial Iberians
other than that, the only region, north of the Rio Grande, where they made any REAL impact, or anything, is the Southwestern U.S.
don't be so butt hurt just because the Spanish in this part of N. America (East of the Miss. River) did jack shit to be remembered for.
it doesn't make you look good, trying to claim every little insignificant thing, that might as well never happened in the first place , as far as anyone can tell.
in the areas where the Spanish presence in N. America mattered ,and had an important impact, is taught in our schools
so what are you bitching about?
and other than the portugese introducing chattel African slavery to new world,, they made little lasting impact, east of the Mississippi River, except for East florida, West florida, and Louisiana
again, which we are taught about in school , FYI
thank you for your concern European-Spanish, non-American ...... like anyone here is supposed to give a fuck what you have to say about it.
Native Americans and African Americans here had ALOT more important and lasting impact than the Spanish did, except for the South-western U.S. and technically southern Louisiana/Florida to a much lesser degree.
as for the links you posted, those are just 3 explorers, that's all. That's not the same as having permanent settlements or even lasting ones.
they didn't make any significant settlements. Not any that mattered historically, anyway.
and it didn't really do anything , other than encourage the Spanish and French settlements of places like Florida and Louisiana, even more,-but they were planning on setting those places anyway. which we are taught about in school.
stupid mother fucker.
nor did they make any cultural or historical impact in this region, except for slavery, Florida (East Fl. and West Fl. and Louisiana)
just because they were merely here for 5 minutes means jack shit
half the fucking nations in Western Europe can make a claim like that.
again, w are taught about the lasting Spanish settlements in the Southeastern U.S. I places like Florida, East Florida, West Florida, Louisiana etc...
so why are you bitching over every little last Spanish explorer who came for a split second and then left? give me a fucking break
I promise, if it mattered, we would be learning about it
if they had descendants still here today, like some in Louisiana, we would, and do, know about it.
stop crying like a bitch over shit that never mattered or affected early American history to begin with.
and where it did make an impact, we do learn about it and we are taught about it. stop bitching.
it's not even your country's history. You're in Europe. don't worry about American ,or anyone else's history ,for that matter.
It makes you look desperate and confused, which you are.
besides, DeSoto had a much more important legacy as Spanish explorer in this region than the people you named
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernando_DeSoto
which we are taught about, btw, since you seem so fucking concerned about other place's histories and American history.
for some fucking reason
I also love this part.
That was your statement about spanish settlements in the Carolinas, especially in North Carolina:
And I told you that as answer:
So please begin taking tablets against your Alzheimer, since it seems you forget very quickly what you write here, unless you are drunk.
And on the fly try not to be so charlatan. You do turn out to be cloying enough.
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 14,428 Given: 28,057 |
doesn't matter if they are social constructs.
Depends on where in America and who settled there. New England=Liberal English people [today] it is a different place which is mostly Non English or WASP American.
The South and places like Utah have also large numbers.
''Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society''- Aristotle
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 14,428 Given: 28,057 |
Well blacks, mulattos and aboriginals weren't considered Americans. Unless I am wrong here?
''Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society''- Aristotle
| Thumbs Up |
| Received: 3,327 Given: 3,452 |
Maybe it depended on their social status?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
United States
United States
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks