What would you say colonial American is mostly a mixture of?

[Brianna]

but I question whatever true Welsh ancestry there really is.

Take a surname like Evans, for example, from my own tree, that could be literally almost anything.

but I think its largely regional in the U.S.

there were many true welsh immigrants to Pennyslvania, the Delaware Valley at the time

but also, in the South, a lot of the English servants had come from this basic area of southern and south-west England ,that included Somerset, Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire etc. and also South Wales, and Monmothshire too etc.. generally.


that is really Anglo-Welsh more than anything else ,and any name found in south Wales or eastern Wales or the Marches can easily be found in neighboring English counties

again, I think a lot of the welsh names are actually just Anglo-Welsh most of all.


but again, its different where your family came from.
There was no specific Welsh migration to this area.
Most of those name are actually English or just Anglo-Welsh etc... or something


but again , in the Mid-Atlantic ,there was some true Welsh migration at the time too, so that's different.

and I know anyone can have one name that maybe like that ,or welsh, but they don't usually count as a large part of your ancestry.

If your last name is Llwellyn ,and your family came from Northern or west Wales, that's one thing, but other than that, I seriously question any specific Welsh ancestry in colonial America to any degree.
except for the Delaware Valley and part of Pennsylvania, where there was some true Welsh migration to the area, but for other parts I think its more Anglo-Welsh than anything else.

even names like Bevans, Price, Rice, Penry, Morgan, Mattox, Maddox etc.. are just as common in southern or south-west England as they are in across the border into Wales.

and then names like Jones? or Davies? or Owens? extremely common Anglo- and Anglo-Welsh names

you cant go by names alone when talking about specific Welsh migration to the U.S, unless your last name is like Gruffudd or something.

I think that you're downplaying the Welsh presence to a certain extent. What you say about surnames is true, but the reverse is true. Some ostensibly English surnames turn out to be Welsh. I have ten to twenty Welsh surnames in my family tree. I traced them back to Wales. I was careful with surnames like Davis or Jones. You're right about how the main Welsh group congregated in Pennsylvania. Some of them moved down south or out west. Daniel Boone was the most famous one. I'm descended from his grandfather, who was a Morgan.

[Brianna]

but I question whatever true Welsh ancestry there really is.

Take a surname like Evans, for example, from my own tree, that could be literally almost anything.

but I think its largely regional in the U.S.

there were many true welsh immigrants to Pennyslvania, the Delaware Valley at the time

but also, in the South, a lot of the English servants had come from this basic area of southern and south-west England ,that included Somerset, Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire etc. and also South Wales, and Monmothshire too etc.. generally.


that is really Anglo-Welsh more than anything else ,and any name found in south Wales or eastern Wales or the Marches can easily be found in neighboring English counties

again, I think a lot of the welsh names are actually just Anglo-Welsh most of all.


but again, its different where your family came from.
There was no specific Welsh migration to this area.
Most of those name are actually English or just Anglo-Welsh etc... or something


but again , in the Mid-Atlantic ,there was some true Welsh migration at the time too, so that's different.

and I know anyone can have one name that maybe like that ,or welsh, but they don't usually count as a large part of your ancestry.

If your last name is Llwellyn ,and your family came from Northern or west Wales, that's one thing, but other than that, I seriously question any specific Welsh ancestry in colonial America to any degree.
except for the Delaware Valley and part of Pennsylvania, where there was some true Welsh migration to the area, but for other parts I think its more Anglo-Welsh than anything else.

even names like Bevans, Price, Rice, Penry, Morgan, Mattox, Maddox etc.. are just as common in southern or south-west England as they are in across the border into Wales.

and then names like Jones? or Davies? or Owens? extremely common Anglo- and Anglo-Welsh names

you cant go by names alone when talking about specific Welsh migration to the U.S, unless your last name is like Gruffudd or something.

I'm having problems with forum gremlins. That makes the second accidental double post in two days.

[Cody Gearhart]

As far as i know my dads side is Dutch and Cherokee maybe Irish too or whatnot. I'm from North Carolina. Thought Dutch was kinda uncommon.

[Weedman]

how many names in your tree are Dutch?

[Cody Gearhart]

how many names in your tree are Dutch?

None. it could be true that my grandpa was actually Irish but still don't believe it. i suppose they took a anglo name. (Martin)
Actually my great grandparents last name was martin too i believe.

[Oneeye]

English, with regional German and/or Scotch-Irish.


Mine were from Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, and Maryland.. and my colonial background is English and German with a bit of Dutch. Pretty spot on map that Frank posted.

[Brianna]

As far as i know my dads side is Dutch and Cherokee maybe Irish too or whatnot. I'm from North Carolina. Thought Dutch was kinda uncommon.

That indeed is an unusual combination. A small number of Dutch people moved from New York to the South and/or the West but I never ran across a tarheel with mostly Dutch ancestry. I bet that you'll find a greater number of other nationalities in your family tree if you do a more thorough study of your genealogy. Maybe. It depends on when your family moved to North Carolina. I assume that your grandpa didn't marry a Cherokee woman when he arrived from Amsterdam. My guess is that you have a Dutch surname, like the Lynyrd Skynyrd boys, but your paternal grandfathers married women who didn't have ancestral roots in the Netherlands after the Germanic invasion of England. If you're mostly Dutch and Native American, you're a rare breed.

[Weedman]

colonial Dutch name is uncommon but nothing is completely unheard of

I knew a guy in school who's last name was Overstreet, from an Anglicized Dutch name
and even some girl named Van Hoosier and another named Van-Brackle but their family could have been carpetbaggers for all I know.

just because its uncommon doesn't mean its totally unheard of

there's still at least someone there with maybe a Dutch Colonial name or something

[Weedman]

If you're mostly Dutch and Native American, you're a rare breed.

rare but not completely unheard of.
There were 'black-dutch' in colonial times

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Dutch

[Cody Gearhart]

That indeed is an unusual combination. A small number of Dutch people moved from New York to the South and/or the West but I never ran across a tarheel with mostly Dutch ancestry. I bet that you'll find a greater number of other nationalities in your family tree if you do a more thorough study of your genealogy. Maybe. It depends on when your family moved to North Carolina. I assume that your grandpa didn't marry a Cherokee woman when he arrived from Amsterdam. My guess is that you have a Dutch surname, like the Lynyrd Skynyrd boys, but your paternal grandfathers married women who didn't have ancestral roots in the Netherlands after the Germanic invasion of England. If you're mostly Dutch and Native American, you're a rare breed.

I'm adopted so that explains my last name. I'm actually a martin also. my grandmother on my dads side was half cherokee half unknown my dad told me. my moms side is Irish,German,and Cheyenne Native American. Also my mom dosen't know what part of Ireland or Germany or anything like that to where they came from. Just know the Cheyenne is from Oklahoma. Also my dad dosen't know what part of ireland or the cherokee or the dutch they came from.