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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzikert View Post
    So if you're not going to move and live there, why are you guys so excited to have an independent country? What's the point? The situation with the Turks is not the same with yours.
    1) For the diaspora I would say it's more about identity. You Turks don't know what it feels like to have your very existence questioned and threatened.

    2) Whose to say that many of us won't eventually move back? I personally know of many Kurds who have moved back, including my siblings. Besides, most Kurds in Europe are not even from the 'Iraqi' part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Kurds are not Persian, where do you lunatics get this shit from?

    Kurds are most likely a result of Medes tribes and Parthians settling along the Zagros Mountains from Iran all the way to modern Turkey, they had a different dialect to their Persian relatives, although similarities occur, a Kurdish person cannot understand a Persian by speaking his native language.
    Wth, do you even listen to yourself? Just look at the facts, kurdish and farsi (persian) are almost mutually intelligible: "My boyfriend is Kurdish and he confirmed that Kurdish/Sorani is more similar to Farsi than to any other language. But that doesn't mean that he understands everything in Farsi (they are still 2 separate languages)" - https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8123733AANqFF4
    Now you might disagree, but lets just look for a chart of how the indo european languages developed (btw, Kurdish and Farsi are both indo european)

    And what can we see here? A connection to persian, who would have guessed?
    But i wanna BTFO you even more, so lets look at the distribution of Indo-european languages, shall we?

    Hmmm, maybe now you can see that absolutely clear connection between kurds and persians?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Kurds are not Persian, where do you lunatics get this shit from?
    i assume we get that by not being driven by some political ideology and instead actually doing some research.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Kurds are most likely a result of Medes tribes
    And? medes tribes are literally Persian. Look at the chart above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzikert View Post
    So if you're not going to move and live there, why are you guys so excited to have an independent country? What's the point? The situation with the Turks is not the same with yours.
    There are million of Kurds who already live there, no need for him to move there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    Wth, do you even listen to yourself? Just look at the facts, kurdish and farsi (persian) are almost mutually intelligible: "My boyfriend is Kurdish and he confirmed that Kurdish/Sorani is more similar to Farsi than to any other language. But that doesn't mean that he understands everything in Farsi (they are still 2 separate languages)" - https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...8123733AANqFF4
    Now you might disagree, but lets just look for a chart of how the indo european languages developed (btw, Kurdish and Farsi are both indo european)

    And what can we see here? A connection to persian, who would have guessed?
    But i wanna BTFO you even more, so lets look at the distribution of Indo-european languages, shall we?

    Hmmm, maybe now you can see that absolutely clear connection between kurds and persians?
    i assume we get that by not being driven by some political ideology and instead actually doing some research.


    And? medes tribes are literally Persian. Look at the chart above.
    You're an idiot, Medes were not Persian but a separate Iranian tribe related to them although their language was quite different. I am not denying any connections between Kurds and Persians but that doesn't automatically make all other Iranic ethnicities related to fucking Persians do they? I guess all Germanic people are "German" then by your flawed logic, get your head out of your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    You're an idiot, Medes were not Persian but a separate Iranian tribe related to them although their language was quite different. I am not denying any connections between Kurds and Persians but that doesn't automatically make all other Iranic ethnicities related to fucking Persians do they? I guess all Germanic people are "German" then by your flawed logic, get your head out of your ass.
    ofc they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    ofc they are
    Thanks for wasting my time, auf wiedersehen.

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    Turkey Desperate to Stop Kurdish Vote; 41 Killed in Iraq

    Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım submitted a motion to the Turkish parliament on Friday asking to extend for another year Turkish military authority in Iraq and Syria — where Kurdish-dominated regions are holding elections. Turkey currently has troops stationed in Iraq that Baghdad wants out. Turkey views an independent state in either country as a threat to its own security due to the large population of Kurds there.

    Turkey has continued to call on Iraqi Kurdistan to cancel its independence referendum, threatening Erbil with sanctions, but Kurdish President Massoud Barzani has rejected all demands to stop the vote. The Kurdish supreme council of the referendum underscored that sentiment by declaring that the voting would take place as scheduled on Monday. However, the councilmembers also intimated that talks with Baghdad were still possible on Saturday.

    http://original.antiwar.com/updates/...1-killed-iraq/

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    Kurds ready to pay any price for freedom, Barzani says, sticking by independence vote

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...-idUSKCN1BX26F

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    Their referendum is tomorrow, I wonder the outcome
    All around me are familiar faces, worn out places, worn out faces
    Bright and early for the daily races, going nowhere, going nowhere

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    Kurdish and Persian are not mutually intelligible. Sorani might be 'more' similiar, but that still doesn't mean Kurdish speakers can understand persian speakers. I can't understand shit when kurds speak to each other, I can can only pick up a couple of words and thats it.

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