How close are Finns and Swedes genetically speaking?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I see them as two different people but genetics might tell another story. Enlighten me

[OnceLord]

All North Euro groups are basically close to one another but have slight pulls in certain directions.. fex. the Germanic speakers in Scandieland pull more towards Britain and Germany, whereas Finns are more east shifted because of their Mongoloid ancestors.

Obviously language is a big difference between the two places, but there are 'Finland Swedes' and other examples of overlap in history and peoples.

[Äijä]

All North Euro groups are basically close to one another but have slight pulls in certain directions.. fex. the Germanic speakers in Scandieland pull more towards Britain and Germany, whereas Finns are more east shifted because of their Mongoloid ancestors.

Obviously language is a big difference between the two places, but there are 'Finland Swedes' and other examples of overlap in history and peoples.

What are the mongoloid ancestors of Finns? Finland Swedes have a pretty common mongoloid look btw.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

What are the mongoloid ancestors of Finns? Finland Swedes have a pretty common mongoloid look btw.

I agree I don't think Finns have Mongol ancestors...I think if they look pseudo Mongoloid maybe it's just because of Mesolithic genetics?

[Linebacker]

Finns have a very large percentage(predominant actually) of the Haplogroup N which is Eurasian,and Swedes and Norwegians have significantly less.In Sweden its mostly the Saami that have it,and in Norway the numbers are very dim.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N-M231

This into account Finns are quite different.

[Jana]

Northern Europeans are close because their Northern ancestry links them before liguistic groups were formed (?)Whg-ANE link . Finns show significant siberian/mongolid component well above European average, which I guess is ancient, because other Northern Europeans have it too. One Finn wrote their genotype is very specific and kind of isolated, still close to neighbours despite its uniqueness.

My knowledge about Northern Europeans is superficialy, so Finns and Swedes in here will know better ofc

[Highlands]

Eurogenes K13 averages.

Finnish

North Atlantic - 34.17
Baltic - 47.69
West Med - 4.43
West Asian - 2.21
East Med - 0.65
Red Sea - 0.42
South Asian - 0.53
East Asian - 0.96
Siberian - 6.48
Amerindian - 0.90
Oceanian - 0.81
North-East African - 0.50
Sub-Saharan African - 0.26

Norwegian

North Atlantic - 51.15
Baltic - 28.61
West Med - 9.91
West Asian - 5.60
East Med - 1.73
Red Sea - 0.43
South Asian - 0.42
East Asian - 0.36
Siberian - 0.64
Amerindian - 0.91
Oceanian - 0.15
North-East African - 0.01
Sub-Saharan African - 0.10

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Eurogenes K13 averages.

Finnish

North Atlantic - 34.17
Baltic - 47.69
West Med - 4.43
West Asian - 2.21
East Med - 0.65
Red Sea - 0.42
South Asian - 0.53
East Asian - 0.96
Siberian - 6.48
Amerindian - 0.90
Oceanian - 0.81
North-East African - 0.50
Sub-Saharan African - 0.26

Norwegian

North Atlantic - 51.15
Baltic - 28.61
West Med - 9.91
West Asian - 5.60
East Med - 1.73
Red Sea - 0.43
South Asian - 0.42
East Asian - 0.36
Siberian - 0.64
Amerindian - 0.91
Oceanian - 0.15
North-East African - 0.01
Sub-Saharan African - 0.10

Are Swedes intermediate between Finns and Norwegians?

[Highlands]

More like Norwegians

Swedish

North Atlantic - 48.53
Baltic - 31.09
West Med - 9.25
West Asian - 5.20
East Med - 1.35
Red Sea - 0.51
South Asian - 0.72
East Asian - 0.38
Siberian - 0.83
Amerindian - 0.68
Oceanian - 0.71
North-East African - 0.21
Sub-Saharan African - 0.55

[Stimpy]

Are Swedes intermediate between Finns and Norwegians?

Swedes and Norwegians are pretty much the same genetically except that Norwegians are generally a tiny bit more shifted towards other West-Euros and Swedes are generally a tiny bit more shifted towards Baltic/Finnic people.