Genetically Walloons are...?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

The Germani also called the Tungri were a group of tribes in modern Wallonia and Limburg, the other "germanic" tribes were named as comparaison to them so if the walloons are not germanics, nobody is.

They are probably a mix of Germanics and Northern Gauls.

A lot similar to the British genetically. British average as Belgians, probably because it's a similar mix of North Celts (Britons and Gauls in Walloons' case) and Germanics.

[Lawalye]

They are probably a mix of Germanics and Northern Gauls.

A lot similar to the British genetically. British average as Belgians, probably because it's a similar mix of North Celts (Britons and Gauls in Walloons' case) and Germanics.

Nope, they are the germanic,
germans and scandinavians should start getting an other name :

"The Tungri (or Tongri, or Tungrians) were a tribe, or group of tribes, who lived in the Belgic part of Gaul, during the times of the Roman empire. They were described by Tacitus as being the same people who were first called "Germani" (Germanic), meaning that all other tribes who were later referred to this way, including those in Germania east of the Rhine river were named after them."

"The name Germany, on the other hand, they say, is modern and newly introduced, from the fact that the tribes which first crossed the Rhine and drove out the Gauls, and are now called Tungrians, were then called Germans [Germani]. Thus what was the name of a tribe, and not of a race, gradually prevailed, till all called themselves by this self-invented name of Germans, which the conquerors had first employed to inspire terror"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungri


"First, Germania was a geographical area of land on the east bank of the Rhine from Gaul, which was left outside direct Roman control by Caesar."

"Second, Caesar uses the term Germani, for a very specific tribal grouping in northeastern Belgic Gaul, west of the Rhine, the largest part of which were the Eburones, making clear that he was using the name in the local way."

"The etymology of the word Germani is uncertain. The likeliest theory so far proposed is that it comes from a Gaulish compound of *ger "near" + *mani "men"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Nope, they are the germanic :

"The Tungri (or Tongri, or Tungrians) were a tribe, or group of tribes, who lived in the Belgic part of Gaul, during the times of the Roman empire. They were described by Tacitus as being the same people who were first called "Germani" (Germanic), meaning that all other tribes who were later referred to this way, including those in Germania east of the Rhine river were named after them."

"The name Germany, on the other hand, they say, is modern and newly introduced, from the fact that the tribes which first crossed the Rhine and drove out the Gauls, and are now called Tungrians, were then called Germans [Germani]. Thus what was the name of a tribe, and not of a race, gradually prevailed, till all called themselves by this self-invented name of Germans, which the conquerors had first employed to inspire terror"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungri


"First, Germania was a geographical area of land on the east bank of the Rhine from Gaul, which was left outside direct Roman control by Caesar."

"Second, Caesar uses the term Germani, for a very specific tribal grouping in northeastern Belgic Gaul, west of the Rhine, the largest part of which were the Eburones, making clear that he was using the name in the local way."

"The etymology of the word Germani is uncertain. The likeliest theory so far proposed is that it comes from a Gaulish compound of *ger "near" + *mani "men"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples

But why would they not be mixed with Gauls?

[Lawalye]

But why would they not be mixed with Gauls?

My point is that the name "Germani" applied only for a group of belgian tribes and has nothing to do with the so called germanic race of the 18th, 19th and 20th century.

So, how could the walloon could not be germanic if they are the originated of the people who were the germani while germans and scandinavians aren't ?

It is an etymological debate here.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

My point is that the name "Germani" applied only for a group of belgian tribes and as nothing to do with the so called germanic race of the 18th, 19th and 20th century.

So, how could the walloon could not be germanic if they are the originated of the people who were the germani while germans and scandinavians aren't ?

It is an etymological debate here.

Well I never said Walloons were not Germanic. I didn't know whether they were or not, so I started this thread.

[Lawalye]

But why would they not be mixed with Gauls?

In fact, all the tribes who populated Wallonia, except in the west, were all considered as germanic tribes by the romans but the Eburones for example had celtic names si it's hard to see if they were correct or not.

[Lawalye]

Well I never said Walloons were not Germanic. I didn't know whether they were or not, so I started this thread.

It's not against you,

see it's funny to see a map of the germanic expansion while Wallonia is not considered to be part in while the term Germani/Germania was the name of a group of belgian tribes from Wallonia and Limburg.

The most funny part on this map is that the nervi and the menapi are placed as germanic while they were obviously celtic and the Tungri are placed in the germanic area and not the Eburones while the eburones were part of the Tungri.

[Gold-Shekel]

Old thread but I doubt Walloons are French. Their language (French) is only recent and has been forced upon the population by the Elite. The language is usually the main reason people claim Walloons are French.

[Tchek]

Old thread but I doubt Walloons are French. Their language (French) is only recent and has been forced upon the population by the Elite. The language is usually the main reason people claim Walloons are French.

But Walloons aren't really Dutch nor Germans either...

[Gold-Shekel]

But Walloons aren't really Dutch nor Germans either...

That doesn't make them French either.

It's possible that they are a mix of all or that they are mainly Celts.