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    Quote Originally Posted by curupira View Post
    I agree with the Israeli military expert Martin van Creveld when he said the following:


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...s.bookextracts

    In this world, technology is what counts mostly. Israel is said to have from 200 to 400 nuclear warheads, nuclear suitcases, neutron bombs. Which isn't hard to believe. Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, Leo Szilard, Edward Teller (the father of the hydrogen bomb), Samuel Cohen (the father of the neutron bomb), were all Jews and comitted to world Jewry. Edward Teller especially. The Israeli Air Force is one of the most sophisticated in the world. I wouldn't doubt their capability to hit any target anywhere in the world, or act covertly under the flag of another country, as Jews can be quite powerful and influential in key countries (nearly half of the US top 50 billionaires are Jews and roughly 40% of their Nobel Prize winners; in the UK Jews comprise the largest group among the richest Britons; etc). They have know how at very high levels, flexibility, and a strong sense of identity which is thousands of years old. International Jewry influence extends all over the world, a very powerful network of connections, being infiltrated in key positions everywhere, which makes them not only less vulnerable to attacks, but also capable of having access to any significant new technological development.
    Israel's power is FAR EXAGGERATED. Also, he speaks as if Israel is operating in a bubble. It is a small country, VERY small, in size and population. Yes, because of many reasons, it punches FAR ABOVE it's weight, but it cannot escape the fact that it is a VERY SMALL COUNTRY.

    Israel doesn't belong in the top 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Israel's power is FAR EXAGGERATED
    I don't think so. I guess it is underestimated and poorly understood. I am speaking of the international Jewry/Israel complex here. Israel is but one the faces of it.

    By the way, van Creveld is a teacher at American Military academies, not a student.

    Van Creveld is the author of seventeen books on military history and strategy, of which Command in War (1985), Supplying War: Logistics from Wallenstein to Patton (1977, 2nd edition 2004), The Transformation of War (1991), The Sword and the Olive (1998) and The Rise and Decline of the State (1999) are among the best known. Van Creveld has lectured or taught at many strategic institutes in the Western world, including the U.S. Naval War College.

    Of particular significance is his 1991 book The Transformation of War (UK: On Future War), which was translated into French, German (New German edition in 2004), Russian, and Spanish.

    The book's significance is attested to by the fact that until the middle of 2008, it was included on the list of required reading for United States Army officers, and (with Sun Tzu and Clausewitz) the third non-American entry on the list.[4] Van Creveld's Supplying War: Logistics from Wallenstein to Patton is now included on the list as well.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld
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    My selection.

    1.-USA.
    2.-China.
    3.-Germany.
    4.-Japan.
    5.-France.
    6.-England.
    7.-Canada.
    8.-Spain.
    9.-Brazil.
    10.-Italy.

    While many mention India among top ten IMHO I wouldn't change living In Mexico for Living in India.

    The Battle of San Pasqual was a military encounter that occurred during the Mexican-American War in what is now the San Pasqual Valley community of the city of San Diego, California. On December 6 and December 7, 1846, the Californios, and their Presidial Lancers, led by General Don Andres Pico, (1810-1876), defeated Stephen W. Kearny´s US Army column of 150 men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curupira View Post
    I don't think so. I guess it is underestimated and poorly understood. I am speaking of the international Jewry/Israel complex here. Israel is but one the faces of it.

    By the way, van Creveld is a teacher at American Military academies, not a student.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld
    I thought you may have been referring to the strength of the Zionist lobby, but again, that's hard to really quantify and measure as a status of Israel's power, it's more still a measure of America's power being used for Israel's benefit. But I understand what you mean.

    I still don't consider Israel amongst the top 10 most powerful, probably top 20. But that's another list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armand_Duval View Post
    My selection.

    1.-USA.
    2.-China.
    3.-Germany.
    4.-Japan.
    5.-France.
    6.-England.
    7.-Canada.
    8.-Spain.
    9.-Brazil.
    10.-Italy.

    While many mention India among top ten IMHO I wouldn't change living In Mexico for Living in India.
    Well, yeah, we are just talking about comprehensive national strength here not per capita living standards. By that measure, I'd rather live in Switzerland than the United States, but Switzerland cannot be compared to the US as a great power.

    But I think Mexico belongs in the top 20 list of powers, if we are talking about that measure.

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    Scientifically, top 5 with the most papers.

    1. USA
    2. China
    3. UK
    4. Germany
    5. Japan

    Military might

    1. USA
    2. Russia
    3. China
    4. India
    5. UK

    As for political influence personally I wouldn't put Brazil anywhere in the top 5. Currently that would look something like.

    1. USA
    2. EU
    3. China
    4. India
    5. Japan

    Top 10 according to the Atlantic Council based on GDP, defense spending, technology etc.

    1. USA
    2. China
    3. India
    4. Japan
    5. Germany
    6. UK
    7. France
    8. Russia
    9. Brazil
    10. Italy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekken View Post
    Lets stick to top 5. Easier.
    A. Superpowers
    1. USA
    2. China.

    B. Great Powers
    3. Germany/Japan/Russia = (Equal in their respective spheres of influence).
    4. France/UK/South Korea = Equal
    5. Brazil, India = Could easily get to spot #4 if they fixed their social problems.
    China isnt a superpower, it cant project power anywhere in the world militarily, economically, AND culturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beergarden View Post
    China isnt a superpower, it cant project power anywhere in the world militarily, economically, AND culturally.
    Economically, yes. But in the other two, it lacks significantly behind the US.

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    Top 05 Countries in the World today
    #1: The United States of America
    #2: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland/ The British Commonwealth of Nations
    #3: The People's Republic of China
    #4: The Russian Federation
    #5: Democratic People's Republic of Korea ( North Korea)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooding View Post
    Top 05 Countries in the World today
    #1: The United States of America
    #2: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland/ The British Commonwealth of Nations
    #3: The People's Republic of China
    #4: The Russian Federation
    #5: Democratic People's Republic of Korea ( North Korea)
    With all due respect, there is no way that the UK is more powerful than China currently, and North Korea is nowhere near the top 5 IMO.

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