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    The Vatican and the Belgian Catholic hierarchy are squealing like stuck pigs over the police raid last week on the home of the former head of Belgium's eight million Catholics. The cops seized a personal computer and documents belonging to Cardinal Godfried Danneels. Police also raided the archdiocesan palace near Brussels, and the crypt of the cathedral at Mechelen.They confiscated 450 files containing reports of paedophile offences by members of clergy.

    Squeal? The bishops ought to be grateful the police weren't kicking in heads as well as kicking in doors. In April Cardinal Danneels' close friend, Monsignor Roger Vangheluwe, the Bishop of Bruges, admitted to having molested children for years, both before and after he became a bishop. In a country which has never recovered from the shock and shame of the Dutroux case, in which legal fumbling -- and perhaps corruption -- by police and prosecutors left a murderous, torturing paedophile loose for years to imprison and rape young girls, patience has run out.

    Now increasing evidence of decades of rape and sodomy of children by Belgian's priests has pushed the law enforcement authorities to act with the kind of determination they should have used against Dutroux and his collaborators.

    The arrogance of the bishops in dealing with years of worried by parents makes this action all the more satisfying. In the current issue of the on-line Brussels Journal, a member of the federal parliament, Dr Alexandra Colen, writes about her struggles, and struggles by other parents, to have a Church catechism stinking of paedophile propaganda withdrawn from Catholic schools.

    Included were drawings such as the one above, in which a naked baby girl is saying: 'Stroking my p**sy feels groovy,' and 'I like to take my knickers off with friends' and 'I want to be in the room when Mum and Dad have sex.' Another drawing shows a naked little boy and girl that are 'playing doctor' and the little boy is saying, 'Look, my willy is big.'

    Another drawing shows three pairs of parents. Those with the 'correct' attitude -- and remember, this meant to be an official handbook of Church teaching -- reply, ' Yes feeling and stroking those little places is good fun.'

    Dr Colen discovered this catechism among the school books of her 13-year old daughter in 1997. Dr Colen wrote to Cardinal Danneels, who was then still in office as head of Belgium's Catholics, and said: 'When I see this drawing and its message, I get the distinct impression that this catechism textbook is designed intentionally to make 13 and 14 year olds believe that toddlers enjoy genital stimulation.'

    'In this way one breeds paedophiles that sincerely believe that children actually think that what they are doing to them is "groovy," while the opposite it the case.' She demanded the Church withdraw the book. Her protests, and protests by other parents, were dismissed by the Cardinal.

    As she explains the Brussels Journal: 'Today this case, that dates from 12 years ago, assumes a new and ominous significance. Especially now that I know that Mgr Roger Vangheluwe, the paedophile child-molesting Bishop of Bruges, was the supervising bishop of both institutions -- the Catholic University of Leuven and the Seminary of Bruges -- whence came the editors in chief of this perverted "catechism" textbook.'

    'Monsignor Vangheluwe not only entertained paedophile ideas, but also practised them on his 11-year old nephew.'



    After Dr Colen started her campaign against such paedophile propaganda in schools, other parents came forward with accounts of children in Catholic schools being required to watch videos showing techniques of masturbation and copulation.

    When hundreds of parents gathered in protest in from of the Cardinal's residence, he refused to meet them. Other protests demanded an investigation into these books and videos in the schools. The investigation was refused. When parents demanded to meet the Papal Nuncio, the Pope's ambassador in Belgium, he refused to meet them. Instead he alerted the police who moved in to guard his residence from the parents with water cannon.

    Meanwhile, some of Cardinal Danneels' friends -- was his good friend the paedophile Bishop of Bruges among them? -- started a press campaign against Dr Colen, claiming she was 'pestering the bishops'. Finally the Cardinal's official spokesman rang her and insisted she had to 'be obedient' to the bishops.

    But word of Dr Colen's campaign spread out to the Church across the world, and she received support from as far away as New Zealand. Letters of support for her arrived at the Vatican. Last February, the Belgian newspaper De Standaard wrote that these letters 'enhanced Rome's perception of the weak church leadership in Belgium.' The liberal Cardinal Danneels was replaced by Archbishop Andr-Joseph Lonard. Rome dropped him into the job in the hope he could restore the Church in Belgium. Lonard has already urged victims to take their cases to court.

    Which is a start. But squealing about a perfectly correct police raid is not. The bishops need to shut up and just hand over the documents.


    http://synonblog.dailymail.co.uk/201...hism-porn.html

    Pedo-bear may approve, but I think that there is something wrong with this picture.


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    They should have arrested the entire hierarchy and put the whole bloody lot on trial.
    And that picture is rather shocking. For the sake of good taste and decency I will not translate it.


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    I'm rather sceptical about this literature, though. Is there any proof? I'd like to see a photograph of the full book, and documents approving its use in classrooms. Might just be made up rubbish. I'm no friend of the Catholic Church - and anyone protecting a paedophile deserves all their teeth sawn in two and molten lead injected into their eyeballs - but this seems just a little over the top...

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    *Gasp*

    No, not the Catholic Church!!!!

    And all this time we thought those rotten brats in the Residential Schools and the ones at Mt. Cashel were lying for something to do.

    The hell you say......

    I am not surprised. Unfortunately. The Roman Catholic Church has a lovely history of shattering souls wherever it goes. Why do people keep propping them up?????

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    Ok, my theory:

    There is not necessarily anything Roman Catholic about the scandal, but the paedo-mafia will find their way into anything and everything.

    The problem is that the RC Church always puts itself first, assuming that it is for the greater good, hence the smokescreen which permits the many disgraces which then turn into scandals before they can be nipped in the bud.

    Was that ecumenical enough? :mmmm:
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    I just needed to bump this one, because no-one has discussed the matter of Marc Dutroux, his wife, and the other paedos and the high-level conspiration which clearly took place to protect them.

    Now the vile pervert wife of Dutroux is going to live in a nunnery. She has been released from prison.

    Hello???

    Something rotten in Belgium.


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    This link is fairly consummate:

    The accused in finance

    A bit of history first. The land which eventually became the state of Belgium has mainly been a battleground between Catholic and Liberal-Protestant interests. Over the centuries and decades, this land subsequently belonged to the Spanish and Austrian Habsburgs, Napoleon's France and since 1815, the Netherlands. In 1830, mainly the Catholic middle and upper class living in the southern provinces of the United Netherlands had become so fed up with their lack of self-determination that they staged a revolution. It succeeded and the state of Belgium was born. Families like de Merode and De Ligne were initially offered the throne, but they refused and the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas came in.

    The major bank in Belgium and the central pillar of its industry was Societe Generale des Pays-Bas, established by King William I of Orange in 1822 for the exact purpose of financing the growth of Belgian industry. After the revolution the name changed to Societe Generale de Belgique and some of Belgium's major aristocratic families gained control over it. This control by families as de Merode, de Meeus, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Janssen, Lippens, Bol and Solvay remained throughout the 19th and 20th century, with the Vatican bank also holding a significant stake. William of Orange eventually let go of the bank.

    Societe Generale's influence over the Belgian economy has always been huge, controlling anywhere between 25 and 50 percent of Belgium's manufacturing industry. (181) It was only in 1988 that the unimaginable happened: the French Suez group took over the bank, and with that, a large chunk of Belgium's economy. Viscount Etienne Davignon was made chairman and remained in that position until 2001. Count Maurice Lippens became the bank's vice chairman.

    The other major historical bank/holding firm in Belgium is Groupe Bruxelles Lambert, its history starting around 1830 when a banker named Lazare Richtenberger became an agent of the London Rothschilds. The son-in-law of Richtenberger, Samuel Lambert, took over the business ten years later. The Rothschilds would often come and visit Samuel and his son Leon in Brussels to advise them on social and political events affecting the markets. Especially James de Rothschild made sure that Banque Lambert focused on financing the railroad companies, like the Morgans, Harrimans and Schiffs were doing in the United States. Leon married Zoe Lucie de Rothschild in 1882, fulfilled diplomatic functions and became the most important financial advisor to King Leopold II of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. When Leopold II acquired the Congo as his own private slave colony in 1885, Leon took over a large part of the financial matters there. (182) Ironically, the Rothschild-backed Cecil Rhodes was one of Leopold's competitors in Africa.

    The Lamberts appear to have remained close associates of the Rothschilds until this day (183), but their influence in Belgian banking seems to have waned. Banque Bruxelles Lambert has been taken over by the Dutch bank ING in 1998 while the Lamberts only have a honorary mentioning in the list of directors of Groupe Bruxelles Lambert (GBL). The Belgian Frere and Canadian Desmarais families are the ones in control of GBL these days. These two families also have a large influence on the Suez group, which owns Societe Generale. In other words, Belgium's primary banks are fully or largely owned by Dutch, Canadian or French interests.

    Another important aristocratic Belgian company is the chemical giant Solvay, founded in 1863 by the Solvay family. It went public in 1967, but the Solvay and Bol families were able to keep control over the company through their holding Union Financiere Bol. The Janssens, De Selliers De Moranvilles and Karel van Miert are also major shareholders of Solvay, or today's holding company, Solvac. In 2003, van Miert replaced Etienne Davignon as director of Solvay.

    Below is a table which shows some of the interaction between the premier industrial and banking families of Belgium. Although it was tighter in previous decades, before the nouveau riche and foreign interests mixed in, Belgium's economy is still controlled by a small oligarchy of aristocratic families centered around the royal court.

    Societe Generale Friends of Europe* GBL Fortis Sofina Finasucre UFB, Solvac & Solvay
    Bol Davignon Desmarais Davignon Bol Bol Bol
    Davignon Janssen Frere Janssen Davignon Lippens Davignon
    Janssen Solvay Lambert Lippens Janssen Janssen
    Lippens
    de Merode de Launoit
    Lippens Selliers de Moranville van Miert
    Selliers de
    Saxe-Coburg Vastapane Moranville
    Solvay Solvay
    Involvement of the families over the years in major banks and corporations. *Not a company, but still interesting
    Besides the royal family, Viscount Etienne Davignon is probably the most well known of this group internationally. Although he comes from a less influential family than the others that are listed, Davignon might well be the most influential person of mainland Europe in the globalization process, with a particular focus on integrating Europe along the lines of Anglo-Saxon liberal policies. Besides his positions in the companies above, Davignon has held (or still holds) the following positions:

    first president of the International Energy Agency (IEA)
    director of Kissinger Associates and good friend of Henry Kissinger
    director of Minorco/Anglo-American Corporation
    vice-president of the European Commission
    co-founder of the European Round Table of Industrialists with someone who at different times worked for the Rockefellers, Kissinger, Rothschilds and Lazard bank
    co-founder and president of the Association for the Monetary Union of Europe
    chairman of CSR Europe (European business network)
    founder of the EU-Japan Centre for Industrial Cooperation
    chairman of the EU-Japan Business Dialogue
    co-founder and president of Friends of Europe
    director of the European Institute
    allegedly a former governor of Ditchley
    chairman of the Royal Institute for International Relations (Belgian version of RIIA)
    member of the US Council on Foreign Relations
    member of the Trilateral Commission
    honorary chairman of Bilderberg
    One of Davignon's closest sidekicks in business and the globalization process is Count Maurice Lippens, whom he really got to know in the late 1980s when both ran Societe Generale. Together they also ran the Belgian branch of the Dutch-Belgian Fortis Bank and they set up SN Brussels Airlines. Maurice visited Bilderberg in 2000, 2002, and 2006 and has become an annual visitor of the Trilateral Commission in recent years. About these meetings he stated:

    "I have never visited DAVOS and think it's one big carnival. I receive the membership lists and can, if I want to, call up anyone I'm interested in. I like to visit Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission. Bilderberg is intense. There one has to work from the early morning to the late evening. The Round Table of Industrialists is interesting, but I'm not a member because I'm not an Industrialist. Talking about the future of the world is a difficult thing by the way. I do like to listen and network in Washington with the Trilateral Commission. You'll hear about interesting trends from first hand." (184)

    Now, why is all this important you ask? Well, for starters because the Lippens family appears all over the X-Dossiers. X1, X2, X4, and two anonymous letters all name Maurice Lippens and his brother Leopold, the long time mayor of Knokke, as vicious child abusers, not only involved in regular rape, but also in the snuff network (185). Additionally, a relative of them, Count Francois Lippens, the honorary consul general of Belgium, appears somewhere deep in the Dutroux dossier:

    "Transmitted to examining magistrate Mr. LANGLOIS in Neufchteau, his dossier 86/0/96 [April 22, 1998]... Annex 161. A note on the existence of a SNUFF network of which Mr. GLATZ of the CIDE would have had knowledge and in which one would find a certain Franois LIPPENS, who is close to the mayor of Knokke, whose name is often mentioned in very horrible activities. I conducted no verification or crosscheck." (186)

    Etienne Davignon is another person whose name comes up in the X-Dossier, although he has not been implicated to the extent of the Lippens family. X2, the police officer, apparently was the only one to mention him:

    "Parties with underage girls in the Cromwel hotel in Knokke. Present: Delvoie - Karel - X2 - Lippens - Van Gheluwe - Etienne Davignon. The girls knew where to go and with whom. Lippens hits the little girls. Several meetings between Karel and Davignon in the Memling hotel with the two Lippens." (187)


    Pictures of Etienne Davignon and Maurice Lippens at Bilderberg, superimposed on extracts (and a picture) from the X-Dossiers.
    X2 speaks of two Karels in her testimony. The first one is a high official in a Brussels court, whose mistress she was. The other one is Dr. Karel van Miert (188), who briefly appeared in the (business families) table above. Karel is a well known Socialist politician from Flanders. His biography includes:

    Member of the European Parliament from 1979 to 1985 and from 1989 to 1994.
    Went to Bilderberg in 1993.
    Member of the Brussels Freemasonry lodge Erasmus and a member of the Grand Lodge of Belgium.
    President of Nyenrode Business University from 2000 to 2003.
    Formerly an advisor to the Rabobank, one of the largest banks in the Netherlands.
    Joined the board of Anglo-American Corporation in 2002, and is a member of the Audit and Nomination Committees.
    Succeeded Etienne Davignon as a director of Solvay in 2003.
    Member of the Advisory Board of La Maison de l'Europe of Bibliothque Solvay.
    Member of the supervisory boards of German utility giant RWE, Philips NV, Munich Re and Vivendi Universal.
    Member of the advisory boards of Goldman Sachs, Eli Lilly, and Agfa-Gevaert.
    Director of Carrefour Belgium and Wolters Kluwer (large Dutch publisher).
    Director of De Persgroep (The Press Group), a media corporation that owns newspapers and news magazines like Het Laatste Nieuws, De Morgen (ironic, as this paper exposed the whole X-Dossiers), De Tijd and Het Parool. It owns about 30-40 percent of the magazines on the market in Flanders (Dutch-language Belgium).
    Who else in the table above is mentioned in the X-Dossiers? Take the de Merode family, for instance. Prince Alexandre de Merode was mentioned by both Nathalie W. (189) and X4 (190) as a central player in the Satanic aspect of the child abuse and -murder network. Additionally, X2, who was spared the worst abuse, mentioned having been in the presence of the "Merode brothers" (apparently Prince Baudouin de Merode, a Knight of Malta, and his younger brother Lionel) together with a whole bunch of the worst aristocratic abusers (191). We will get back to this family.

    Charles De Selliers De Moranville, apparently a lawyer in Brussels, appears in a document of the X-Dossiers, although what exactly he has been accused of is not clear. The following text could be found in the summary of PV 103.204/97:

    "While doing work at Rue de Neufchtel 62 in St. Gilles [Brussels; only a few blocks away from Charles' office] the witness noticed the existence of an almost finished subterranean bunker (in 01/96). A tunnel was concealed behind one of the walls. He was surprised by a conversation in which a lady said "the children will be well here."

    Because of the background of this family, its connections to alleged abusers, and a rumor going around the net that Charles has been accused on another occasion (192), it has been included in this article. Charles' name appears in a column that lists the accused mixed in with a few victims. Charles doesn't seem to have the background of a victim, as members of De Selliers De Moranville family can be found in the Jesuits, Cercle de Lorraine, Banque Prive Edmond de Rothschild in Genve, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, Fortis, Solvay, and Coca-Cola Belgium.

    Did you already notice how Solvay seems to come up a lot? Etienne Davignon, Karel van Miert and Guy De Selliers De Moranville were all directors of this company. But there's more. The Bols and Janssens, both major shareholders in Solvay, were accused of trade in drugs and children in 1999, aside from the X-Dossiers (193). Francoise Dehaye, whose husband was named by X2 as being part of the abuse network (194), is a quality and innovation manager at Solvay. The gamekeeper and-or woodsman of La Hulpe, the castle of the Solvay family, has been accused of being a violent child abuser (195). And how about the strange statements about Chateau des Amerois, owned by the Solvay family, which also appeared in the Dutroux dossier? (196)

    The Belgian royal family has been implicated on several occasions. X2 spoke about a girl she had known who had been murdered, and how this girl told her about the domain of Princess Liliane de Rety ("a madwoman") where children were buried (197). Liliane was the second wife of King Leopold III (d. 1983) and lived until her death in 2002 at Chateau d'Argenteuil. In 2004, the Delwart family, shareholders of Solvay, bought the domain (198).

    From personal experience, X2 mentioned having seen Prince Laurent, the brother of Belgium's present crown prince. Laurent apparently was more interested in masturbating at child abuse orgies than taking part in the actual abuse (199).



    X3 implicated Prince Charles (1903-1983), the second son of King Albert I; King Baudouin (1930-1993), the eldest son of King Leopold III; and either King Albert I or II. Unfortunately, X3 spoke about experiences from the 1950s and early 1960s, which meant that none of the other X-Dossier witnesses could confirm aspects of her story. Two of her primary abusers, Paul Vanden Boeynants and Charly De Pauw, had already appeared in the Pinon file of the early 1980s; the same is true for King Albert II (200). Additionally, part of the details of the abuse described by X3, although recognizable, can be a bit hard swallow (the scale and setting), all making her testimony hard to use without more backup from other witnesses. In X3's support, however, she was a well-respected person in the support community for abused women and children, and her interviewers refused to write down most of what she said. A few excerpts from a summary written about X3's testimonies:

    "The car stopped on a parterre before the house. [It] was surrounded by a park. Two supervisors were present: Ralf and Walter. The children were taken to a tower made of natural stone and with a wooden door... an underground [corridor] left from the turret toward the cellars... without light... going downward. In the cellars there were cells where the children were locked up, awaiting their turn. There also were some cells for the dogs (dobermans). The passageway gave way to a room of spectacle. In the tower: dead children's bodies in various stages of decomposition (sometimes dismembered and/or missing body parts) and carcasses of dogs. Spectators: always the same but difficult to identify - about fifty. She recognized the regent Charles, King Baudouin and King Albert, and two others that she calls Charly [De Pauw] and Polo [Paul Vanden Boeynants]. She thinks to have recognized Willy Claes [later NATO secretary general] and doctor Vanden Eynde. The dogs listen to Ralf and Walter. The addicted dogs are excited. Spectacles = orgies, putting to death children and dogs. The spectacle room has a strong odor of excrements of dogs. Dogs can roam free in the garden... Gilles (12 years old??) was castrated by Polo. The other children have to drink the blood... Girls are slashed with razor blades. The lips of the vagina of X3 have partially been cut and were given to eat to the dogs... A girl's [large] vulva was cut into slices and fed to the dogs..."

    "Childbirth by a teenager through a caesarean section. Baby pulled out of the stomach and given to the dogs by Polo. She saw the dismembered mother again in the exposition of the dead... She has to eat the human flesh cut from the bodies. She has to eat pieces of children (fingers) served in gelatin. Good taste - slightly sugary. It provoked an enormous sensation of hunger and thirst. Drinking blood relieved the sensation of thirst... She speaks of another murder that she committed on a girl of 3-5 years under the threat that it would be her brother who would be killed. She opened up the girl from the vagina to the breastbone with a knife. She gave the internal organs to the dog. Someone cut off the head. The child was devoured by the dogs... Murder of a young teenage woman who was opened up by Vanden Eynde... The baby shouted in the mother's stomach. She resewed the stomach with the baby inside..."

    "Luxurious house with a surrounding wall and gate... non illuminated twisting path. There were some stables. Parterre with flowers. Hall of entry = cream-colored and blue tiles - red carpeting. Walls made of marble with a teenage picture of [later king] Baudouin on it. She spent a whole night with Baudouin - fellatio and sodomy. Presence of maid... In this house there were many servants... She remembers one evening when she had been smeared with cream before being brought to the table on a tray. She had been licked off and raped... At the end of another evening a child... had been castrated. The other children that were present buried the boy in a flowerbed. She remembers a child who had been decapitated, then cut and fried before being eaten. She remembers children who hung on hooks in the kitchen. A certain Solange [a female name] has been enucleated [what exactly?] with a spoon by her and an old lady." (201)

    Besides the X-Dossier accusations there have at least been two other instances in which high-level members of Belgium society have been accused of doing terrible things with children.

    By far the most prominent occasion was in May 2004 by The Sprout, an English-language magazine located in Brussels that reports on EU affairs. They wrote an article claiming that Julie and Melissa had been killed in a snuff movie and that a number of prominent people had been present at this murder. However, even though plenty of questions remain about the kidnapping and murder of Julie and Melissa, the evidence the Sprout came up with, in the opinion of this author, was not very strong and their idea of posting pictures of the bodies of Julie and Melissa on the magazine's cover was highly questionable, even if these bodies were to show that the girls had not simply died from starvation. Again in the opinion of this author, the pictures do not show a whole lot, and neither do other pictures that can be found in the (final) Dutroux dossier.

    The other case happened in 1999 and centered around the person of Count Yann de Meeus d'Argenteuil. This count came from an influential family who were (and possibly are) significant shareholders in Societe Generale. In fact, Count Ferdinand de Meeus (1798-1861), "the Rothschild of Belgium", became governor of Societe Generale in 1830 and helped King Leopold to acquire control over the bank from the Princes of Orange.

    Count Yann's biography is less prestigious than the average member of this family and is characterized by pedophilia and psychotherapy. On September 12, 1999, while locked away in a mental institution, unsuccessfully trying to get out, Count Yann drew up a list of personalities he accused of being involved in the trafficking of children and drugs. He sent this list to investigating agencies in Belgium, France and the United States, but apparently nothing was done. On November 11, 2000, Count Yann committed suicide. (202)

    At first glance the list doesn't seem very interesting, because none of the names match those that appeared in the X-Dossiers. However, it must be stated that there are a huge amount of private and business links between the men on Count Yann's list and those in the X-Dossiers.

    Take members of the Lambert, Bol, Janssen and de Launoit families which appear on Count Yann's list. They share boards, private clubs and foundations with Davignon, the Lippens and De Selliers De Moranville families. The Bols have been to the European Round Table, the Janssens to Bilderberg, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, the Atlantic Institute if International Affairs, the Royal Institute for International Relations, etc. Particularly chilling is the involvement of the Lippens, de Launoit and Selliers De Moranville families in the Belgian Kids Foundation for Pediatric Research. (203)
    Take Philippe de Patoul, who worked at Banque Lambert (GBL, where many of the accused reside) and in 1995 set up the TNN Trust & Management Ltd. with Bernard de Merode. Bernard de Merode married the sister of Baron de Bonvoisin (204), one of the abusers in the testimonies of X1 and X2, and now works at Risk Analysis, a firm headed by two retired but formerly very senior MI5 agents (205). Bernard's family, as already stated, features quite prominently in the X-Dossiers also.
    Take examining magistrate Benoit Dejemeppe, who was a protege of Melchior Wathelet, who in turn was a protege of Paul Vanden Boeynants, both allegedly extremely violent child abusers. Dejemeppe is quite a controversial judge who in 1996 tried to separate Annie Bouty's dossier from the Dutroux child abuse dossier through Georges Marnette (206). It must also be stated, however, that Dejemeppe was responsible for locking up Count Yann.
    Take magistrate Yves de Prelle de la Nieppe, who's a member of a rather small club named Carnet Mondain. Other members of the club are Charles de Selliers de Moranville and wife (accused of involvement in the child abuse network), Jacques G. Jonet (accused of covering up the Pinon Affair; once Otto von Habsburg's political secretary; through his involvement with Mouvement d'Action pour l'Unite Europeenne he came at CEPIC and de Bonvoisin's PDG headquarters), Baron Guibert de Viron (a family member is accused of trafficking drugs and children, and is married into the de Caters family which has been accused in the X-Dossiers), and Countess Rodolphe d'Ursel (a family member is accused of being part of the abuse and snuff network of Baron de Bonvoisin, to whom this family is close). (207)
    Take Axel Vervoordt, a well known art dealer and alleged pedophile (208) whose art castle is located next to a domain where X1 said child murders took place (209); or Prince Alexandre of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, the stepson of the earlier mentioned Princess Liliane de Rethy; or Chevalier Pierre Bauchau, the former president and chairman of the African Banque Belgolaise, majority owned by the Fortis Bank of such figures as Maurice Lippens, Etienne Davignon, Baron Daniel Janssen and Guy de Selliers de Moranville.
    To summarize this part of the article: as for the families described above, by far the most convincing evidence has been gathered against the Lippens family, of which three members have been accused by about half a dozen witnesses of the same type of extreme abuse. Evidence against the Princes of Merode has also been stacking up. Besides testimonies from X4, Nathalie W. and supplementary information from X2, it's also telling that the de Merode family is intermarried with de Bonvoisins, a very notorious family on which we still need to focus. Who places trust in the testimony of X2 will additionally hold serious suspicions against such individuals as Etienne Davignon, Karel van Miert and Princess Liliane de Rethy (or the whole royal family). As for the De Selliers De Moranville family, there remains a lack of detail in the accusations against them. The same goes for the Solvay family, in which case we're talking about circumstantial evidence anyway, albeit quite a lot. And last and certainly least, the accusations of Count Yann de Meeus d'Argenteuil; they might have been interesting and insightful to this author to identify Belgium's aristocracy, but there's no denying that without additional research they remain quite unreliable.
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    Something rotten in Belgium.
    It's not specifically Belgium though, even if defamation is a belgian sport which gives it a lack of transparancy compared to other countries.

    For exemple, in France, high profile politicians like Daniel Cohn Bendit, frederic Mitterand, Jack Lang and others have admitted being part of pedo networks. When they are not, they are sexual predators like Strauss Kahn.

    Power and wealth seem to breed sociopathic characters everywhere.

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