Do you help Africa?

[Cato]

Does Africa help me?

[The Lawspeaker]

I don't understand the Africans. I only need to look at the Asian country of Singapore. They have no resources none whatsoever and they got kicked out of Malaysia in 1965. So you have a city without the hinterland and without any resources.
But they have been studying and working their ass off for over 40 years now and they have become one of the richest countries on earth.

Africa abundant with resources and manpower never got beyond starvation and the most heinous wars around the globe.

[Äike]

Sending aid to Africa is the same as giving a heroin addict more heroin...

The Africans can solve their problems themselves, without any help, if the situation gets bad enough. Currently, they have no motivation to solve their problems as they get money from Western countries.

[The Lawspeaker]

So then the question arises: should we even help Africa ?
And I think we should most definitely say NO. If African countries have any debts to Europe: cancel those debts. If African resources can be found elsewhere: buy them elsewhere. Re-route all commercial flights and let's simply ignore the place from now on and let nature run it's course.

[Hussar]

I don't think europeans have any debt with Africa. Thay haven't anymore.


What kind of debt at 50 yrs from the end of colonialism ???

In 19th imperial Japan became an idustrial power in less than 30 yrs. Germany had the capability to recover from the apocalypse of world war II in 20 yrs.

China turned its status of third world nation to economic titan in 60 yrs. India (although much more slowly) is on the way.


AFRICA doesn't lack resources (much more natural resources than Europe), and doesn't lack manpower (60% of population is young).

So, taking in account those factors........no, i don't help Africa. And i don't feel guilty for that. I don't have any moral duty to do (i'm not a missionary). My ideology (i'm conservative) is in favour of Europe.

Without the historical presence of europeans, Africa would be (today) exactly as it is.

[RoyBatty]

I was surprised by how many forum members are concerned about the well-being of the inhabitants of the dark continent. Just to do away with any misconceptions on my part, I am wondering how many people here are actively involved in humanitarian relief destined for Africa.


Please vote and elaborate on how you are involved. Thank you.

Not me

"Humanitarianism", "Aid" and "Charity" (in the context of "helping the third world") are for suckers.

Many of the concerned "charities" and "NGO's" are fronts for the Intelligence Services of wealthy countries who use "charity" and "development aid" as a cover for political interference and economic exploitation.

In other cases "charities" concentrate their efforts on extracting the maximum amount of $$ out of soft-headed Westerners and then pocket much of the money themselves through devices such as "administrative costs".

Even in cases where money actually get to Africa most of it will be stolen by corrupt local officials.

It makes no sense to fund out of control population growth and hopeless, corrupt and inept countries and cultures. It is not our "moral responsibility" to save all of humanity. Ultimately all this "humanitarianism" only speeds up the demise of our own civilisation whilst supporting those cultures who are overrunning us.

It makes no sense to fund one's own holocaust. The world is a jungle and unless a person believes in the NWO and One World Government funding the competition is what traitors, idiots and those hostile to us do.

[The Lawspeaker]

I don't think europeans have any debt with Africa. Thay haven't anymore.


What kind of debt at 50 yrs from the end of colonialism ???

In 19th imperial Japan became an idustrial power in less than 30 yrs. Germany had the capability to recover from the apocalypse of world war II in 20 yrs.

China turned its status of third world nation to economic titan in 60 yrs. India (although much more slowly) is on the way.


AFRICA doesn't lack resources (much more natural resources than Europe), and doesn't lack manpower (60% of population is young).

So, taking in account those factors........no, i don't help Africa. And i don't feel guilty for that. I don't have any moral duty to do (i'm not a missionary). My ideology (i'm conservative) is in favour of Europe.

Without the historical presence of europeans, Africa would be (today) exactly as it is.

Some African countries seem to be indebted to European countries or organizations. I think that we should simply let it go.

[RoyBatty]

I don't think europeans have any debt with Africa. Thay haven't anymore.

Europeans as in "the general population" have no debt with Africa. It's a different matter where EU governments, banks, energy companies, farming conglomerates, industrialists and miners are concerned.

Many of these parties still shamelessly exploit Africa.

[The Lawspeaker]

I personally think that as long as the average African isn't a factory worker, a businessman, a lawyer or a farmer with a proper education and well maintained land - and as long as African manufactured goods do not match the quality and sophistication of what we produce here - as long as the average African youngster doesn't go to college and studies law other things that are important. As long as the African government are not clean of corruption then until then.. we shouldn't help Africa. They will have to help themselves.

As long as the average African doesn't look like this:



And comes here as a businessman to represent free and honest trade and the rule of law and as long as his word doesn't mean a good and fair deal between a European and an African we should have nothing to do with them.

[RoyBatty]

And comes here as a businessman to represent free and honest trade and the rule of law and as long as his word doesn't mean a good and fair deal between a European and an African we should have nothing to do with them.

"Free and honest trade" and "fair deals" in business and economic and political dealings between countries are the stuff of textbook manuals, not reality.