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    I'd rather help poor people here, I volunteer at a soup kitchen. Because I know any money going to Africa is going to corrupt governments not the people who need it.

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    I think Africans will eventually become self-sufficient, although they are hundreds of years behind the rest of the world. They've got a lot of catching up to do, for a variety of reasons. There are ways to help them, but just throwing money at these corrupt governments is not the way to go.
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    Of course not.

    I don't voluntarily donate to any charities whose funds are used outside of the US, nor do I support political candidates who wish to continue wasting between 1-2% of the federal budget on foreign aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I think Africans will eventually become self-sufficient, although they are hundreds of years behind the rest of the world. They've got a lot of catching up to do, for a variety of reasons. There are ways to help them, but just throwing money at these corrupt governments is not the way to go.
    I agree. And I don't think throwing aid at people doesn't help either. Then they become dependant on aid. There is a saying here "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime."

    So yes, throwing money doesn't work, food drops don't work (just as a temporary solution in times of dire famine). What needs to be done in Africa is schools need to be built, and education promoted. That will help more than what the bleeding hearts are doing now.

    I'll be honest, I actually almost went to work in Swaziland, at a women's school, teaching computer programming, not because of any special feeling for Africa but because it would be helping women in a country where they are very dependant on men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Quotes, or did you just make that up?
    Why would I make that up? Read the HIV vaccine thread for quotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nisse View Post
    Why would I make that up?
    Dunno, maybe because you're trolling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nisse View Post
    Why would I make that up? Read the HIV vaccine thread for quotes.
    Well, I personally think more has to be done to stop the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa. It's a mess.

    But a way to stop it is through education.

    But "education" is a bad word for leftists, that's why they keep dumbing down the school system in Western countries. They love giving people handouts, it makes them feel better about their pathetic selves. They're like those mothers who breatfeed their kids until they're like 10.

    You know, God forbid people become self-sufficient.

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    I want to change something about financial-economic system in the world, first for my people, but also for others, I think we all, whole mankind would be better off without the current Financial Oligarchy, the Plutocracy.

    Also there are different parts of Africa, I'm more concerned with those closer to my people and more racially-culturally progressive first, especially about non-Muslim Europoids.

    However, I have neither good nor bad feelings towards the Negrids in Africa, I would give them a chance and help if they accept it, to our terms of course, we need trade and exchange, yet I would personally never spend money on Africans as long as people in of my nation or any other Europeans suffer too. State/NGO programs are fine in a way, but they often miss the point by being pseudo-humane and Neo-Christian inspired, don't consider longer term consequences.

    I see everything in layers and priorities, first those which are related, which are more progressive and promising, then step by step and if something is left, for humane considerations, I would send help to everybody if it is not detrimental to my people...

    If we can prevent suffering without significant negative consequences for higher priorities, we should do so. That's my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Dunno, maybe because you're trolling?
    Ban me if you think so.

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