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    Default Prostitution is in fact an honourable profession.

    Schoolgirls Controlled by Loverboys
    Math Class in the Morning, Turning Tricks at Lunchtime


    By Dialika Krahe


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    They are still children, only 12 or 13 years old. They fall in love for the first time, at the school gates or on Facebook, and wind up with a pimp. Parents and police are struggling against the hold so-called loverboys have over young girls, but often it's already too late.

    It had happened again the previous evening. One of her johns came into her booth behind the glass window, starting groping her and then wanted more than she usually offers for €50 ($64).

    "Twenty minutes, normal sex," she kept saying to him, but the man wouldn't listen and started lashing out and shouting that he wanted anal sex. She pressed the alarm button, her only recourse in this cell of glass and tiles, holding just a bed with a washable cover.
    At that moment, says Angelique, when the police didn't show up, as usual, and the man raged at her, she asked herself why on earth she does this, why she is stupid enough to prostitute herself, to give up her youth and her body here in Amsterdam's red-light district, up to 20 times a day. Why?

    "I guess I just never learned how to do anything else," says Angelique. She was 15 when she fell in love with her first pimp. He would be waiting for her in his car when she came out of school. He bought her short shirts, high-heeled shoes and big earrings and told her to put them on. She did it because she loved him. Then he drove her to parking lots and apartments, where he rented out her body, the body of a 15-year-old girl. Angelique was raised to have sex.

    "He looked like a model," says Angelique today. She drives through the labyrinthine cobblestone streets of Amsterdam's red-light district, De Walen, a tall girl with clinking gold earrings and long hair. Tourists, drug dealers and johns jostle in the narrow streets and alleys.

    "I got to know him after school," says Angelique. One day, she says, when she and a girlfriend went to drink a coke after school, a boy offered her a chair, an attractive, 19-year-old Moroccan. He bought her a drink and then invited her back to his car to listen to music. Soon he was taking her to parties and discotheques and giving her alcohol. She fell in love. A few weeks later, he forced her to sleep with strange men for the first time.

    Seeking Out Schoolgirls

    In the Netherlands they're called loverboys, these men who captivate schoolgirls and then send them out on the streets, young men who meet 13, 14 and 15-year-old girls outside their schools or online, through social networks like Facebook, and who then make them dependent on their attentions, their affection and drugs, until it's too late and the girls belong to them.

    That was how it happened with Angelique, who was in 8th grade when it started; and with Maria, 12, whose loverboy made sure that she continued going to school; and with Mowitha, a 13-year-old girl who liked playing football and the guitar, until she met her loverboy.

    Dutch society has been shaken by the stories of girls like Angelique, who go to math class in the morning and turn tricks at lunchtime, sometimes even during free periods between classes. But what is perhaps most shocking is that these are not girls from broken homes and socially deprived environments who are sliding into and disappearing in the underworld, but girls from the center of society, daughters of teachers and café owners. Sometimes they work as prostitutes for years before anyone even notices.

    Emotional dependence between prostitutes and pimps has always existed. Women are made submissively dependent with drugs, violence and sometimes affection, to ensure that they do their pimps' bidding. But the idea that young men are systematically seeking out schoolgirls to groom them to become prostitutes is a new phenomenon that has overwhelmed parents, teachers and the police.

    To fight the problem, Dutch schools are holding informational seminars, social service agencies are setting up shelters for the victims and criminologists are taking a look at the issue. In Germany, a few parents are also waking up to reality and turning to aid organizations, because they are at a loss as to how to save their daughters from pimps.

    "Soon he started giving me marijuana and cocaine," says Angelique. She went to school in the morning, where she tried to appear alert. In the afternoon, she went to rendezvous points and got into his car.

    If she refused, he would pinch her and hit her, on her arms and legs, in spots where no one would notice. Her mobile phone was constantly ringing, and she was getting messages from him, like: "where are you?" and "get over here, right away." She would tell her parents that she was going to a friend's house.

    "I know that he was bad for me," says Angelique, "and that he messed up my life." But to be honest, she adds, she still dreams about his eyes. []

    By then, she was probably already too involved and not open to outside help anymore. "At a certain point, the girls are no longer capable of recognizing reality," and the loverboy becomes the only reality, says Bärbel Kannemann. She is a short, plump woman, a retired inspector who worked for the police in Germany for 35 years. Now she divides her time between Germany and the Netherlands. She became aware of the issue of loverboys through a TV program about missing children. For the last two years, Kannemann has been involved with an organization called "Stoploverboys."

    Aid organizations estimate that about 1,500 young girls fall victim to this form of prostitution every year. The victims are usually afraid to go to the police, for various reasons: because they are being threatened, because they feel ashamed or guilty, or because they have no proof. Two years ago, 180 complaints were filed against loverboys, but police suspect that the number of unreported cases is much higher.

    Sophisticated System of Control

    The burden of proof rests with the girls. But how can someone prove, years later, that they were abused as a child? The girls are often under the influence of drugs or in shock, and the months become a blur of different places, violence and sex. And besides, who believes what a whore has to say?

    "After school, I go to my daily rape," says Kannemann, describing a situation to which many of the girls have become accustomed. Together with Angelique's mother, Anita de Wit, she goes to schools and speaks with parents and victims. Only yesterday, she went to the red-light district in Rotterdam to look for a girl whose parents had reported her as missing. This year alone, says Kannemann, she and de Wit have liberated seven girls from the clutches of their respective loverboys. Kannemann is also trying to investigate cases in Germany, where the first victims contacted her a few weeks ago.

    The mechanisms they use to entice the girls into submission, says Kannemann, are always the same: The pimp alienates a girl from her environment and stirs her up against her parents until he become the only person she can relate to.

    It is a sophisticated system of control, power and rewards. Eventually, the girls feel that they hardly have an identity of their own without these men, says Kannemann. Sometimes it takes years until girls are able to lead independent lives again.

    Maria Mosterd has managed to get out, but she wonders how long it will last. "If he found me," she says, "I can't say that I would never go back to him."

    She is sitting in the garden of a row house in a small Dutch city, a pretty girl with her hair braided into pigtails. No one can know where she lives, she says. She is 22 and has a young daughter and a new life, "but it's difficult for me," she says. For years, her life was structured around orders. Her pimp constantly told her what to do, "what to wear, what to say, with whom to sleep -- and suddenly I have to make so many decisions on my own."

    It was a summery day in August or September when Maria met her loverboy. She was riding her bike to a new school. Maria was 12 years old.

    He was leaning against his car on the school parking lot. The car had darkened windows, and he was a heavyset black man with a big gold chain around his neck. He looked like an actor in a rap video.
    "Hello," he said as she rode by. That was all he said, but Maria thought that it sounded cool, and she felt the other girls looking at her, admiringly, perhaps even with envy. "Hello," she replied, as she continued riding her bike to the school.

    He was standing there again a few days later, but this time he wanted to talk to her and give her compliments. He said his name was Manou. The fourth time they met he took her for a ride in his car and then, according to Maria, took her to a house where he raped her. He told her that it was normal for girls her age to do things like that. She was now his prostitute, his property.
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    The tread title is inspired by the statement of a certain person I presume?

    Well people who know me longer already know my opinion about these scum and what should be done to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groenewolf View Post
    The tread title is inspired by the statement of a certain person I presume?
    Yes it is. But this thread is not supposed to be about that, it simply struck me when I stumbled upon this article a little while later.
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    The majority of all victims are girls that dated immigrants. Usually "rijksgenoten" (Antilleans) and then found out that they were just lured into prostitution.
    Hence the reason why I would never let a daughter of mine (if I were to have one) date one of those people and even a Dutch boyfriend would get screened because I would definetely talk to all their friends and their parents.



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    Hey if you descide out of your own free will you wanna be a prostitute then go for it.. no one should be telling anyone what or who you can and can't get it on with. And if you make a couple bucks doing it, well then there you go..
    "Free, do you call yourself? Then I would hear your ruling thought, and not merely that you have escaped from a yoke. Are you one of those who had the right to escape from a yoke? Many a one has cast away his last worth when he has cast away his servitude. Free from what? What does that matter to Zarathustra! But your fiery eyes should tell me: free for what?" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Preston View Post
    Hey if you descide out of your own free will you wanna be a prostitute then go for it.. no one should be telling anyone what or who you can and can't get it on with. And if you make a couple bucks doing it, well then there you go..
    You do realize this is about young girls being forced in to prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Preston View Post
    Hey if you descide out of your own free will you wanna be a prostitute then go for it.. no one should be telling anyone what or who you can and can't get it on with. And if you make a couple bucks doing it, well then there you go..
    Free will, pfft. My arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groenewolf View Post
    You do realize this is about young girls being forced in to prostitution.
    In that case I would oppose it violently and without mercy.

    I don't read things at 0600 before my coffee so forgive my haste.
    "Free, do you call yourself? Then I would hear your ruling thought, and not merely that you have escaped from a yoke. Are you one of those who had the right to escape from a yoke? Many a one has cast away his last worth when he has cast away his servitude. Free from what? What does that matter to Zarathustra! But your fiery eyes should tell me: free for what?" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


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    Being paid to be horny and horizontal is not too bad, the problem is when somebody, other than a client, is employing oneself.

    Smart girls (and boys) even employ secretaries to field their calls. They do not have pimps and they are not likely to be working in a red light district or in a brothel. That is entry-level prostitution, and just a hair-breadth away from street work.

    Working independently, in one's own house, or in hotels, and possibly paying someone a small fee to answer your calls and make appointments is really the smartest way to do it.

    If one is working for someone other than oneself, then one is not in control and one could be find oneself under a lot of pressure to see more clients than one has the energy or time for.

    Prostitution should be about nice restaurants and hotels, luxury when required, nice clothes, healthy food, getting plenty of exercise AND rest, upmarket and attractive clients who enjoy paying, living in a nice apartment and independence.

    Equation:

    Fun = money earned / time spent working

    That is why hooking WORKS.

    It should never be about drugs or alcohol, dependence, putting up with abusive clients or any other crap like that or working unfeasible hours.

    Prostitutes provide excellent and expert sexual experiences, and it is a profession of sorts. Just like everything else, one gets what one pays for, and he or she will provide fun times in exchange for cash, and make it the best ever, so that the client comes back...

    In the UK there are many laws which protect prostitutes from exploitation whilst not criminalising prostitutes or their clients. It is one of the few areas of work in the UK where there is minimal regulation and there is a lot of fun and tax-free money to be made.

    The laws are there to protect prostitutes, the problem is lazy law-enforcement and the individual weakness and disempowerment of individual prostitutes.

    Simply put, if a client is willing to pay £120+ per hour, then they are likely to be a sexy (yes, even old people can be sexy) confident, rich and horny little sex pot, who one would probably like to spend time with anyway. There is surely nothing better than a sexy rich client who just wants to have fun or bang like a dirty dog...



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    The fault is with the parents. They do not educate/build relationships with their children. I don't for a second belive that any child who's been made aware of the dangers of "talking to strangers", has been taught to question the motives of others and has a good life at home would fall into such a trap.

    Not to mention that there's abolutely nothing "normal" a 20ish year-all could want from a 12 year-old...which should be obvious even to a 12 year-old.

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