Where Have All the Scots-Irish Gone?

[Grace O'Malley]

No, I read that about Fitzgerald too. Hence the different paternal DNA groups in those Family Tree DNA charts. I like to play detective. That's how I discovered the O'Driscoll link to the McGuires and the Sloans.

That's really interesting. Shows how DNA can be helpful.

My paternal ydna is M222 (S588). There are some interesting projects at FTDNA.

[Grace O'Malley]

We think alike. That song came into my head with the title of this thread also.

[Anglo-Celtic]

That's really interesting. Shows how DNA can be helpful.

My paternal ydna is M222 (S588). There are some interesting projects at FTDNA.

My big fear is that my dad won't match his dad. Of course, I might get just a general haplogroup from 23andMe.

[Sharpshooter]

I think a lot of them identify as Irish. I think Irish ancestry can be a bit inflated. Most Irish-Americans are Protestants which was a surprise to me when I first read that.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ir...st%20prominent.

Although undoubtedly there are a substantial amount of Irish Americans who were descendants of Ulster-Scots, many Irish Catholics in the past 50 years have also intermarried with Germans/English/Scandinavians and have become protestant that way.

[TheOldNorth]

They probably are just mixing with other white people in America, like English or Irish or Scottish. I have some Scots Irish ancestry, many of them married English or Welsh settlers in the south even back in the 17-800s

[Anglo-Celtic]

They probably are just mixing with other white people in America, like English or Irish or Scottish. I have some Scots Irish ancestry, many of them married English or Welsh settlers in the south even back in the 17-800s

That was the pattern for hundreds of years. Many Americans are "Islish" (roots in all countries of the British Isles).

[TheOldNorth]

That was the pattern for hundreds of years. Many Americans are "Islish" (roots in all countries of the British Isles).

I like to use the Australian census term Anglo-celtic to describe such people

I didn’t even see your user name till after I responded Ha!

[Anglo-Celtic]

I like to use the Australian census term Anglo-celtic to describe such people

I use that term. "Islish" limits it to the British Isles if pedants mention that other countries have the same ethnicities.

[SineNomine]

Aside from general intermarriage, a large factor is the religious shift away from older denominations to evangelical, "non-denominational," and "megachurch" congregations, and Pentecostals across Scots-Irish areas. For decades, being Scots-Irish often meant being a Presbyterian. The decline of Presbyterian affiliation, and division of denominations along social fault lines, is a huge factor here.