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    An interesting calculator



    Here are my results:

    1 South_and_West_European 41.09
    2 Caucaus_Parsia 20.73
    3 North_and_East_European 20.27
    4 Middle_East 16.73

    1 Greek_North 3.68
    2 Greek_South 4.46
    3 Ashkenazim_V 5.95
    4 Gagauz 7.02
    5 Greek_Center 7.12
    6 Greek_East 8.13
    7 Italian-Center 8.44
    8 Jew_Romania 8.46
    9 Bulgarian 10.24
    10 Italian-South 11.32
    11 Romania 11.96
    12 Italian-North 12.27
    13 Sicilian 12.31
    14 Macedonian 12.63
    15 Greek_Azov 13.69
    16 Tatar_Crim 14.09
    17 Greek_Cretan 14.19
    18 Montenegrin 14.21
    19 Italian_North 15.14
    20 Serbian 16.25

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    Greek average (mainland Greece) from my gedmatch matches:

    1 South_and_West_European 42.543
    2 North_and_East_European 21.442
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 17.992
    4 Middle_East 16.736

    Greek islands average:
    1 South_and_West_European 38.27
    2 Caucaus_Parsia 26.6
    3 Middle_East 24.7
    4 North_and_East_European 8.685

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    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 42.57
    2 North_and_East_European 30.16
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 13.45
    4 Middle_East 11.38


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Macedonian @ 2.769130
    2 Bulgarian @ 3.934163
    3 Montenegrin @ 5.065757
    4 Serbian @ 5.584479
    5 Gagauz @ 6.056178
    6 Bosnian @ 8.325606
    7 Romania @ 9.443270
    8 Swiss @ 9.465736
    9 Croatian @ 10.605893
    10 Provancal @ 10.829538
    11 Italian_North @ 11.187200
    12 German-South @ 11.383256
    13 Hungarian @ 12.268471
    14 Austrian @ 13.223987
    15 Ashkenazim_V @ 13.895861
    16 French @ 14.108053
    17 German_V @ 14.360919
    18 Slovenian @ 14.564346
    19 Italian-North @ 14.704335
    20 Croatian_V @ 15.344456


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    Population
    Caucaus_Parsia 27.90%
    Middle_East 18.44%
    Indian 2.29%
    South_and_West_European 27.02%
    Melanesian 0.63%
    Sub_Saharian -
    North_and_East_European 11.71%
    Arctic_Amerind 1.37%
    East_Asian 5.80%
    Paleo_African -
    Mesoamerican 0.63%
    North_Asian 4.22%

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tatar_Crim 7.16
    2 Greek_Azov 9.44
    3 Turk 11.53
    4 Nogai 14.99
    5 Cirkassian 15.6
    6 Jew_Romania 15.84
    7 Greek_Cretan 16.05
    8 Ashkenazim 18.29
    9 Kumyk 18.41
    10 Greek_East 18.48
    11 Costanoan 18.52
    12 Balkarian 18.59
    13 Greek_North 18.62
    14 Azeri 18.66
    15 Greek_South 18.72
    16 Turkmen 18.8
    17 Jew_Syria 18.97
    18 Greek_Center 19.04
    19 Ashkenazim_V 19.07
    20 Kabardinian 19.24

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    Albanian average

    1 South_and_West_European 43.8575
    2 North_and_East_European 21.5525
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 16.9675
    4 Middle_East 16.2975

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    Mainland Greeks and Albanians are non-distinguishable in this calculator.

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    LBK (neolithic people)
    1 South_and_West_European 65.41
    2 Middle_East 26.8
    3 North_and_East_European 4.97
    4 Caucaus_Parsia 2.48

    Loschbour (paleolithic people)
    1 North_and_East_European 72.09
    2 South_and_West_European 26.74

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    The only MDLP calculator that I find accurate is the MDLP K23b

    Here is my MDLP World result (FTDNA)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 45.73
    2 North_and_East_European 41.38
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 9.48
    4 Middle_East 1.27


    Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 German_V @ 2.320739
    2 CEU_V @ 2.765018
    3 Slovenian @ 3.607790
    4 Austrian @ 3.721289
    5 CEU @ 3.978043
    6 Norwegian_V @ 4.126341
    7 Welsh @ 4.262352
    8 Hungarian @ 4.642820
    9 German-North @ 4.649265
    10 British @ 5.136759
    11 Czech @ 5.282828
    12 Orcadian @ 5.319479
    13 German @ 5.621440
    14 Croatian @ 6.247073
    15 Swedish @ 6.722604
    16 Slovakian @ 6.866211
    17 Bosnian @ 8.136926
    18 Croatian_V @ 8.706721
    19 German-South @ 9.124605
    20 Swedish_V @ 9.857104

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_V +50% German_V @ 1.842619


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_V +25% Norwegian_V +25% Serbian @ 1.666748


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + Orcadian @ 1.470974
    2 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + British @ 1.480093
    3 Latvian_V + Welsh + British + British @ 1.486954
    4 Latvian_V + CEU + Orcadian + British @ 1.500705
    5 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + British @ 1.516034
    6 Latvian_V + CEU + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.518198
    7 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + Orcadian @ 1.521248
    8 Norwegian_V + German_V + German_V + German_V @ 1.530804
    9 Latvian_V + CEU + British + British @ 1.532281
    10 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + British + British @ 1.557748
    11 Latvian_V + Welsh + Orcadian + British @ 1.560975
    12 Latvian_V + Welsh + Welsh + British @ 1.563250
    13 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + CEU @ 1.591126
    14 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + CEU @ 1.601265
    15 Latvian_V + Orcadian + British + British @ 1.607427
    16 Latvian_V + Orcadian + Orcadian + British @ 1.626362
    17 Ukrainian_V + British + British + German_V @ 1.638244
    18 Bosnian + Norwegian_V + Norwegian_V + CEU @ 1.642892
    19 Latvian_V + Welsh + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.655249
    20 Bosnian + Norwegian_V + Norwegian_V + British @ 1.663788

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 45.65
    2 North_and_East_European 41.60
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 10.07


    Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 German_V @ 3.044088
    2 CEU_V @ 3.555958
    3 Norwegian_V @ 4.227507
    4 CEU @ 4.399495
    5 Slovenian @ 4.405642
    6 Austrian @ 4.443184
    7 Welsh @ 4.636773
    8 German-North @ 4.880985
    9 Hungarian @ 5.249791
    10 British @ 5.445967
    11 Orcadian @ 5.576446
    12 Czech @ 5.766778
    13 German @ 5.815538
    14 Croatian @ 6.817055
    15 Swedish @ 6.857351
    16 Slovakian @ 7.135429
    17 Bosnian @ 8.613828
    18 Croatian_V @ 9.232233
    19 German-South @ 9.611176
    20 Swedish_V @ 9.893641

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_V +50% German_V @ 2.409167


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian_V +25% German_V +25% German_V @ 2.409167


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + British + British @ 2.103065
    2 Latvian_V + CEU + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.173053
    3 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + Orcadian + British @ 2.175845
    4 Latvian_V + CEU + Orcadian + British @ 2.188874
    5 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + Orcadian @ 2.189577
    6 Latvian_V + Welsh + Orcadian + British @ 2.198219
    7 Latvian_V + Welsh + British + British @ 2.217350
    8 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + British @ 2.220230
    9 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + Orcadian @ 2.223956
    10 Latvian_V + CEU + British + British @ 2.227879
    11 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + British @ 2.228151
    12 Latvian_V + Orcadian + British + British @ 2.238233
    13 Latvian_V + Orcadian + Orcadian + British @ 2.242103
    14 Latvian_V + Welsh + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.252563
    15 Latvian_V + Welsh + CEU + CEU @ 2.273255
    16 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + CEU + British @ 2.273263
    17 Latvian_V + Welsh + Welsh + British @ 2.274705
    18 Latvian_V + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.281615
    19 Latvian_V + CEU + CEU + CEU @ 2.300060
    20 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.312826

    I always get closer results using FTDNA over 23andMe. I wonder if this is because FTDNA test more snps?

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    It looks a bit shifted toward the east for westerners.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 49.25
    2 North_and_East_European 34.18
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 7.99
    4 Middle_East 7.60


    Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 German-South @ 3.235514
    2 Serbian @ 5.244613
    3 French @ 6.348013
    4 Swiss @ 6.489285
    5 Montenegrin @ 6.777265
    6 Austrian @ 6.840260
    7 Bosnian @ 7.064831
    8 Croatian @ 7.203249
    9 Provancal @ 8.227804
    10 Hungarian @ 8.247943
    11 German_V @ 8.262577
    12 Macedonian @ 8.603491
    13 British @ 8.826901
    14 Slovenian @ 9.091795
    15 CEU @ 9.118255
    16 CEU_V @ 9.449721
    17 Orcadian @ 9.830590
    18 Welsh @ 10.106071
    19 Italian_North @ 10.365484
    20 Bulgarian @ 11.163911

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish_V +50% Corsican @ 1.257511


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Corsican +25% Lithuanian +25% British @ 0.856813


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Latvian + German-South + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.490648
    2 Belarusian + Italian-Center + Basque + German_V @ 0.569502
    3 Polish_V + Czech + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.661252
    4 Italian-South + Austrian + Lithuanian + Basque @ 0.670067
    5 Lithuanian_V + Italian-South + Basque + German_V @ 0.678075
    6 German-South + Lithuanian + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.722688
    7 Belarusian + CEU_V + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.732802
    8 Lithuanian_V + French + Corsican + Provancal @ 0.739558
    9 Lithuanian_V + Austrian + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.743754
    10 Lithuanian_V + Corsican + Corsican + British @ 0.750969
    11 Italian_North + French + Corsican + Lithuanian @ 0.757239
    12 Lithuanian_V + Italian_North + French + Corsican @ 0.765518
    13 Latvian + Bulgarian + Italian-North + Basque @ 0.780858
    14 Slovakian + Polish_V + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.784341
    15 Lithuanian_V + Italian-South + Basque + Croatian @ 0.793168
    16 Italian-South + Lithuanian + Basque + German_V @ 0.794906
    17 Belarusian + CEU_V + Italian-South + Basque @ 0.798328
    18 Spaniard + Slovakian + Provancal + Croatian @ 0.799596
    19 Belarusian + Austrian + Italian-Center + Basque @ 0.801137
    20 Slovenian + Lithuanian_V + Italian-South + Basque @ 0.808461

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    I like this one, it's only one where I get Croatian as top result:

    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 43.19
    2 North_and_East_European 39.57
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 10.21
    4 Middle_East 5.93

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croatian 1.43
    2 Hungarian 1.87
    3 Bosnian 2.95
    4 Slovenian 3.53
    5 Austrian 3.95
    6 German_V 4.14
    7 Croatian_V 5.35
    8 Czech 5.6
    9 CEU_V 5.63
    10 German 5.88
    11 German-North 6.65
    12 Slovakian 6.85
    13 Serbian 7.29
    14 CEU 7.49
    15 Norwegian_V 7.87
    16 German-South 7.95
    17 Welsh 7.98
    18 British 8.26
    19 Orcadian 8.79
    20 Swedish 9.17

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Hungarian +50% Croatian @ 1.360413

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Slovakian +25% Gagauz +25% German_V @ 0.804451

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Ukrainian + Welsh + Gagauz + Croatian @ 0.593357
    2 Ukrainian_V + Macedonian + Croatian + German_V @ 0.620050
    3 Swedish + Serbian + Polish_V + Gagauz @ 0.651436
    4 Polish_V + Gagauz + Croatian + German_V @ 0.694226
    5 German-North + Russian_South + Montenegrin + Macedonian @ 0.695958
    6 Belarusian_V + Gagauz + CEU_V + Croatian @ 0.697570
    7 Ukrainian-East + Norwegian_V + Swedish + Italian-Center @ 0.698720
    8 Polish + Lithuanian_V + Gagauz + Kosovar @ 0.701365
    9 Belarusian_V + Polish_V + Greek_East + British @ 0.711750
    10 Russian_South + Norwegian_V + Swedish + Italian-Center @ 0.719972
    11 Polish_V + Gagauz + CEU_V + Croatian @ 0.735835
    12 German-North + Swedish + Polish_V + Greek_East @ 0.738237
    13 Ukrainian + Bulgarian + Croatian + German_V @ 0.738930
    14 Swedish + Greek_North + Polish_V + German_V @ 0.743080
    15 Norwegian_V + Lithuanian_V + Greek_East + German_V @ 0.748022
    16 Ukrainian-East + Welsh + Gagauz + Croatian @ 0.754833
    17 Swedish_V + Greek_Center + Polish_V + German_V @ 0.767732
    18 Bosnian + Ukrainian-East + Montenegrin + Austrian @ 0.767867
    19 Russian_South + Norwegian_V + Macedonian + Macedonian @ 0.768712
    20 German-North + Belarusian_V + Swedish + Greek_Center @ 0.771231
    Single Population Sharing:

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.9% Croatian + 6.1% Mordovian @ 0.69
    2 95.7% Croatian + 4.3% Komi @ 0.76
    3 71.8% Ukrainian-West + 28.2% Kosovar @ 0.78
    4 89.8% Croatian + 10.2% Ukrainian_V @ 0.81
    5 94.9% Croatian + 5.1% Tartar_Mishar @ 0.82
    6 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Mordovian_V @ 0.83
    7 92.7% Croatian + 7.3% Russian_South @ 0.84
    8 95.4% Croatian + 4.6% Russian_North @ 0.85
    9 95.7% Croatian + 4.3% Inkeri @ 0.86
    10 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Ukrainian-East @ 0.87
    11 94.7% Croatian + 5.3% Moldavian @ 0.88
    12 96.4% Croatian + 3.6% Karelian @ 0.88
    13 91.5% Croatian + 8.5% Ukrainian-Center @ 0.89
    14 89.7% Croatian + 10.3% Ukrainian-West @ 0.9
    15 97.1% Croatian + 2.9% Udmurd @ 0.9
    16 93.6% Croatian + 6.4% Russian_V @ 0.9
    17 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% Russian_cossack @ 0.91
    18 97.8% Croatian + 2.2% Saami @ 0.91
    19 96.8% Croatian + 3.2% Vepsa @ 0.91
    20 96.3% Croatian + 3.7% Chuvash @ 0.92
    Target: Stearsolina
    Distance: 1.9099% / 1.90986405 | R3P

    81.3 South_Polish
    10.9 Italian_Sardinia
    7.8 Abhkasian

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